[tcs-lc] Proposal: replace "Is parent/child of" with specific term

[Kennedy, Jessie]

I'd go for parent-taxon-of, child-taxon-of as with the other proposal.

Jessie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tcs-lc-bounces at ecoinformatics.org [mailto:tcs-lc-
> bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Gregor Hagedorn
> Sent: 19 September 2005 20:26
> To: tcs-lc at ecoinformatics.org
> Subject: [tcs-lc] Proposal: replace "Is parent/child of" with specific
> term
> 
> James wrote:
> 
> > BTW, I'm unhappy with "is parent of" name because parent is also used
> > for hybrids.  Member of/has member could be alternative because the
> > word member is used in documentation.
> 
> I endorse that, I find this unexpected and illogical as well.
> 
> Not only in hybrids, also in breeding or pathological races true
> parents/children in the biological sense exist. Not to speak of named
> individuals (e.g. animals in zoo)...
> 
> These concepts seem to be not intended, but when reading the list I was
> assuming so.
> 
> I assume the relationship names are derived from programming concepts or
> tree
> traversal logic. However, in that sense it is a __very general__ concept
> and
> would suit most, perhaps all relationship types. It thus poorly signifies
> the
> special case of linnean or phylogenetic/cladistic taxonomic hierarchy.
> 
> Furthermore, I feel that it conceptually misleading. If "GenusX" is in
> "FamilyX", the statement "FamilyX" "is parent of" "GenusX" would become
> false,
> if subfamilies, sub-sub-families, infrafamilies, supragenera, etc. are
> recognized. In fully cladistic treatments, such changes occur almost
> constantly
> with any new species studied. It is understood that the TCS data would
> have to
> change, but visualizing taxonomic classes and subclasses as graph
> relationships
> puts the emphasis wrongly on the exact path of a relationship, rather than
> on
> class-containment and the compatibility of such statements.
> 
> Proposals:
>   member of/has member (James)
>   higher-taxon-of, lower-taxon-of,
>   supra-taxon-of, sub-taxon-of,
>   next-higher-taxon-of, next-lower-taxon-of
>   parent-taxon-of, child-taxon-of
>   sub-taxon-of, sub-taxon-of
> 
> Those who would see a late change in this as well, please comment on their
> preference.
> 
> Gregor----------------------------------------------------------
> Gregor Hagedorn (G.Hagedorn at bba.de)
> Institute for Plant Virology, Microbiology, and Biosafety
> Federal Research Center for Agriculture and Forestry (BBA)
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