[seek-kr-sms] my emails on SWRL: lost images

Bertram Ludaescher ludaesch at ucdavis.edu
Sat Apr 23 21:41:56 PDT 2005


Hi Serguei:

Now we're talking! =B-)

Shawn and I have picked up again on our Sparrow work (actually mostly
Shawn ;-) and we'll have human-readable and machine-readable
"everything" rather soon.. 

By "everything" I mean of course not really everything. But, e.g.,
things like 
- DL concept expressions (hopefully soon with the constructs you put
on the wish-list) -- we call those sometimes "semantic types"
- DL axioms
- "structural types", i.e. XML DTD like expressions
- "association mappings" between structural and semantic types
and more.

I think we'll have many details of this language ready for prime time
by May 12th (the Berkeley Ptolemy/Kepler miniconf.) and even before
for the SEEK meeting.. are you going as well? You should meet with
Shawn then! (Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it, as much as I'd
like to..)

cheers

Bertram

Serguei Krivov writes:
 >  
 > 
 > has_uncle(X1,X3) :- has_parent(X1,X2), has_brother(X2,X3).
 > 
 >  
 > 
 > This is as clear as it gets. It's human readable, easy to parse, and I
 > 
 > don't see how it can be improved (if it ain't broken don't fix it ;-).
 > 
 >  
 > 
 > Hi Bertram,
 > 
 > I apologize again about the mess around html format.
 > 
 >  
 > 
 > I love prolog syntax. If this syntax could be extended to cleanly describe
 > OWL-DL constructs, such as unions, complements, enumerations, and worst of
 > all-  property restrictions, then it would be the best for SWRL. Currently
 > SWRL abstract syntax   uses OWL abstract syntax for this purpose. ( It is
 > called abstract because rdfs based syntax, which is the worst is assumed to
 > be concrete)
 > 
 >  
 > 
 >  I love to use my LaTeX editor and paste images from pdf files to email, but
 > I would much prefer not to do it. But how could I describe concisely in
 > ascii the example of rule as follows ( I added it also in attachments): 
 > 
 > The question is actually how to describe property restrictions that could be
 > nested and combined with Boolean operations in any  manner.
 > 
 >  
 > 
 >  
 > 
 > serguei
 > 
 > <html>
 > 
 > <head>
 > <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
 > 
 > 
 > <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)">
 > 
 > <style>
 > <!--
 >  /* Style Definitions */
 >  p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
 > 	{margin:0in;
 > 	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
 > 	font-size:12.0pt;
 > 	font-family:"Times New Roman";}
 > a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
 > 	{color:blue;
 > 	text-decoration:underline;}
 > a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
 > 	{color:purple;
 > 	text-decoration:underline;}
 > p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText, div.MsoPlainText
 > 	{margin:0in;
 > 	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
 > 	font-size:10.0pt;
 > 	font-family:"Courier New";}
 > @page Section1
 > 	{size:8.5in 11.0in;
 > 	margin:1.0in 77.95pt 1.0in 77.95pt;}
 > div.Section1
 > 	{page:Section1;}
 > -->
 > </style>
 > 
 > </head>
 > 
 > <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple>
 > 
 > <div class=Section1>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>has_uncle(X1,X3) :- has_parent(X1,X2), has_brother(X2,X3).</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>This is as clear as it gets. It's human readable, easy to parse, and I</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>don't see how it can be improved (if it ain't broken don't fix it ;-).</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>Hi Bertram,</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
 > font-family:"Courier New"'>I apologize again about the mess around html format.</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>I love prolog syntax. If this syntax could be extended to cleanly
 > describe OWL-DL constructs, such as unions, complements, enumerations, and worst
 > of all- &nbsp;property restrictions, then it would be the best for SWRL.
 > Currently SWRL abstract syntax &nbsp;&nbsp;uses OWL abstract syntax for this
 > purpose. ( It is called abstract because rdfs based syntax, which is the worst
 > is assumed to be concrete)</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>&nbsp;I love to use my LaTeX editor and paste images from pdf files to
 > email, but I would much prefer not to do it. But how could I describe concisely
 > in ascii the example of rule as follows ( I added it also in attachments): <img
 > width=594 height=26 src="cid:image001.jpg at 01C54862.D9465FF0"></span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>The question is actually how to describe property restrictions that
 > could be nested and combined with Boolean operations in any &nbsp;manner.</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
 > 10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
 > style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
 > 
 > <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
 > style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>serguei</span></font></p>
 > 
 > </div>
 > 
 > </body>
 > 
 > </html>



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