[kepler-dev] Can I use Ptolemy actors in Kepler?

[Norbert Podhorszki]

Good idea, but first, please, implement a faster start-up for Kepler.
With the current Kepler I would vote for throwing out actors from the 
tree ;-)

Norbert

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007, Daniel Crawl wrote:

> Why not put all of the Ptolemy actors in the actor tree? This would
> allow searching as well as browsing. If it's a matter of creating momls,
> couldn't that be automated? The Ptolemy actors currently not in the tree
> go in a new "unofficial" or "unsupported" category.
>
>  --dan
>
> Dan Higgins wrote:
>> If you really want a 'browse' mode, why not add the actor to Kepler's
>> 'official' list of supported and documented actors and just include it
>> in the actor tree?
>>     It could be done under the menu item, but it would require the
>> system to examine all java classes and determine whether they are
>> entities or attributes (or we put all the entity/attribute classes in a
>> single location).
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Bertram Ludaescher wrote:
>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:12:00 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>> Norbert Podhorszki <npodhorszki at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> NP>
>>> NP> Hi Tony,
>>> NP> If you find a Ptolemy actor useful, just remember its class name (e.g.
>>> NP> ptolemy.actor.lib.Ramp). In Kepler, "Tools/Instantiate Component" menu
>>> NP> allows you to type in the class name, which will put an actor instance on
>>> NP> your canvas just as dragging one from the actor tree.
>>>
>>> hmm... I guess from a user's POV, it would be nice to not have to
>>> remember but to be able to enter a "browse mode" and look through
>>> what's there...
>>>
>>> maybe yet another possible "todo" .. comments anybody?
>>>
>>> Bertram
>>>
>>> NP>
>>> NP> The ptolemy jar is stored in the kepler.jar, so you have access to any
>>> NP> Ptolemy actors and directors.
>>> NP>
>>> NP> If you want to use a director not in Kepler tree, you have to use the
>>> NP> "Tools/Instantiate Attribute" menu. I use it to get a DDF director
>>> NP> frequently (class ptolemy.domains.ddf.kernel.DDFDirector).
>>> NP>
>>> NP> I suppose, you can create a kar file for any ptolemy actor just as for
>>> NP> kepler actors, if you want to add some of them into the Kepler actor tree.
>>> NP>
>>> NP> Best regards
>>> NP> Norbert
>>> NP>
>>> NP> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Tony O'Hagan wrote:
>>> NP>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had a few attempts to build a more complex workflow involving
>>>>> processing sequences of arrays and found some needed actors not available in
>>>>> Kepler but present in the Ptolemy actor libraries.
>>>>>
>>>>> So ... I'd like to use many of the Ptolemy actors in Kepler.
>>>>> Is this possible?  Are there are any known risks combining them?
>>>>>
>>>>> What steps do I need to follow to import or compile them?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any plans to support the Ptolemy actors preloaded inside Kepler?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tony.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried to catch people on IRC again today but got no response.
>>>>> I have a list of several more questions which I can probably sort out
>>>>> quicker via an interactive discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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