[kepler-dev] Can I use Ptolemy actors in Kepler?

[Efrat Frank]

It would be great if there was a way to show actors in the tree  
without loading them, and when the user drag&drops an actor it would  
use the same method as in 'instantiate component'.

Efrat

On Jun 21, 2007, at 2:40 PM, Norbert Podhorszki wrote:

>
> Good idea, but first, please, implement a faster start-up for Kepler.
> With the current Kepler I would vote for throwing out actors from the
> tree ;-)
>
> Norbert
>
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007, Daniel Crawl wrote:
>
>> Why not put all of the Ptolemy actors in the actor tree? This would
>> allow searching as well as browsing. If it's a matter of creating  
>> momls,
>> couldn't that be automated? The Ptolemy actors currently not in  
>> the tree
>> go in a new "unofficial" or "unsupported" category.
>>
>>  --dan
>>
>> Dan Higgins wrote:
>>> If you really want a 'browse' mode, why not add the actor to  
>>> Kepler's
>>> 'official' list of supported and documented actors and just  
>>> include it
>>> in the actor tree?
>>>     It could be done under the menu item, but it would require the
>>> system to examine all java classes and determine whether they are
>>> entities or attributes (or we put all the entity/attribute  
>>> classes in a
>>> single location).
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> Bertram Ludaescher wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:12:00 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>>> Norbert Podhorszki <npodhorszki at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> NP>
>>>> NP> Hi Tony,
>>>> NP> If you find a Ptolemy actor useful, just remember its class  
>>>> name (e.g.
>>>> NP> ptolemy.actor.lib.Ramp). In Kepler, "Tools/Instantiate  
>>>> Component" menu
>>>> NP> allows you to type in the class name, which will put an  
>>>> actor instance on
>>>> NP> your canvas just as dragging one from the actor tree.
>>>>
>>>> hmm... I guess from a user's POV, it would be nice to not have to
>>>> remember but to be able to enter a "browse mode" and look through
>>>> what's there...
>>>>
>>>> maybe yet another possible "todo" .. comments anybody?
>>>>
>>>> Bertram
>>>>
>>>> NP>
>>>> NP> The ptolemy jar is stored in the kepler.jar, so you have  
>>>> access to any
>>>> NP> Ptolemy actors and directors.
>>>> NP>
>>>> NP> If you want to use a director not in Kepler tree, you have  
>>>> to use the
>>>> NP> "Tools/Instantiate Attribute" menu. I use it to get a DDF  
>>>> director
>>>> NP> frequently (class ptolemy.domains.ddf.kernel.DDFDirector).
>>>> NP>
>>>> NP> I suppose, you can create a kar file for any ptolemy actor  
>>>> just as for
>>>> NP> kepler actors, if you want to add some of them into the  
>>>> Kepler actor tree.
>>>> NP>
>>>> NP> Best regards
>>>> NP> Norbert
>>>> NP>
>>>> NP> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Tony O'Hagan wrote:
>>>> NP>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had a few attempts to build a more complex workflow  
>>>>>> involving
>>>>>> processing sequences of arrays and found some needed actors  
>>>>>> not available in
>>>>>> Kepler but present in the Ptolemy actor libraries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So ... I'd like to use many of the Ptolemy actors in Kepler.
>>>>>> Is this possible?  Are there are any known risks combining them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What steps do I need to follow to import or compile them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any plans to support the Ptolemy actors preloaded  
>>>>>> inside Kepler?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Tony.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried to catch people on IRC again today but got no response.
>>>>>> I have a list of several more questions which I can probably  
>>>>>> sort out
>>>>>> quicker via an interactive discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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