[kepler-dev] Can I use Ptolemy actors in Kepler?

Daniel Crawl crawl at sdsc.edu
Thu Jun 21 14:34:33 PDT 2007


Why not put all of the Ptolemy actors in the actor tree? This would
allow searching as well as browsing. If it's a matter of creating momls,
couldn't that be automated? The Ptolemy actors currently not in the tree
go in a new "unofficial" or "unsupported" category.

  --dan

Dan Higgins wrote:
> If you really want a 'browse' mode, why not add the actor to Kepler's 
> 'official' list of supported and documented actors and just include it 
> in the actor tree?
>     It could be done under the menu item, but it would require the 
> system to examine all java classes and determine whether they are 
> entities or attributes (or we put all the entity/attribute classes in a 
> single location).
>
> Dan
>
> Bertram Ludaescher wrote:
>   
>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:12:00 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>> Norbert Podhorszki <npodhorszki at ucdavis.edu> wrote: 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>> NP> 
>> NP> Hi Tony,
>> NP> If you find a Ptolemy actor useful, just remember its class name (e.g. 
>> NP> ptolemy.actor.lib.Ramp). In Kepler, "Tools/Instantiate Component" menu 
>> NP> allows you to type in the class name, which will put an actor instance on 
>> NP> your canvas just as dragging one from the actor tree.
>>
>> hmm... I guess from a user's POV, it would be nice to not have to
>> remember but to be able to enter a "browse mode" and look through
>> what's there...
>>
>> maybe yet another possible "todo" .. comments anybody?
>>
>> Bertram
>>
>> NP> 
>> NP> The ptolemy jar is stored in the kepler.jar, so you have access to any 
>> NP> Ptolemy actors and directors.
>> NP> 
>> NP> If you want to use a director not in Kepler tree, you have to use the
>> NP> "Tools/Instantiate Attribute" menu. I use it to get a DDF director 
>> NP> frequently (class ptolemy.domains.ddf.kernel.DDFDirector).
>> NP> 
>> NP> I suppose, you can create a kar file for any ptolemy actor just as for 
>> NP> kepler actors, if you want to add some of them into the Kepler actor tree.
>> NP> 
>> NP> Best regards
>> NP> Norbert
>> NP> 
>> NP> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Tony O'Hagan wrote:
>> NP> 
>>   
>>     
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I've had a few attempts to build a more complex workflow involving
>>>> processing sequences of arrays and found some needed actors not available in
>>>> Kepler but present in the Ptolemy actor libraries.
>>>>
>>>> So ... I'd like to use many of the Ptolemy actors in Kepler.
>>>> Is this possible?  Are there are any known risks combining them?
>>>>
>>>> What steps do I need to follow to import or compile them?
>>>>
>>>> Are there any plans to support the Ptolemy actors preloaded inside Kepler?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tony.
>>>>
>>>> I tried to catch people on IRC again today but got no response.
>>>> I have a list of several more questions which I can probably sort out
>>>> quicker via an interactive discussion.
>>>>
>>>>
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>> NP> 
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