[kepler-dev] [seek-exec] semantics
Deana Pennington
dpennington at lternet.edu
Thu Jan 19 12:29:31 PST 2006
Ok, there is now a wiki site at
http://kepler-project.org/Wiki.jsp?page=NameKeplerGrid
You can also get to it from the Hot Topics page
You will need to edit the page to vote or add terms
I hope I got most of the terms that were tossed out there
Deana
Deana Pennington wrote:
>This calls for a wiki page...I'll put one up and let everyone add
>terms/comment/vote over the next couple of weeks
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>Deana
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>Jing Tao wrote:
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>>Maybe we need to prepare a candidate list then have a vote :)
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>>Jing
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>>Jing Tao
>>National Center for Ecological
>>Analysis and Synthesis (NCEAS)
>>735 State St. Suite 204
>>Santa Barbara, CA 93101
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>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Laura L. Downey wrote:
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>>>Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:37:23 -0700
>>>From: Laura L. Downey <ldowney at lternet.edu>
>>>To: 'Deana Pennington' <dpennington at lternet.edu>,
>>> "'Beach, James H'" <beach at ku.edu>
>>>Cc: 'seek-exec' <seek-exec at ecoinformatics.org>,
>>> 'kepler list' <kepler-dev at ecoinformatics.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] [seek-exec] semantics
>>>
>>>Maybe too cutesy but what about SciberNet, SciberGrid, SciberWeb or
>>>SciberWorld? Cross between science and cyber....
>>>
>>>Other possibilities:
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>>>SciRes (science resources)
>>>SciComp (science computer resources)
>>>SciDCR (science distributed computer resources)
>>>SciDC (Scientific distributed computing)
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>>>D-Science (Distributed computing resources for science)
>>>
>>>Laura L. Downey
>>>Senior Usability Engineer
>>>LTER Network Office
>>>Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
>>>1 University of New Mexico
>>>Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
>>>505.277.3157 office
>>>505.610.9657 mobile
>>>505.277-2541 fax
>>>ldowney at lternet.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
>>>[mailto:kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Deana Pennington
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:24 PM
>>>To: Beach, James H
>>>Cc: seek-exec; kepler list
>>>Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] [seek-exec] semantics
>>>
>>>If I could think like Steve Jobs I wouldn't be on this project :-)
>>>
>>>Beach, James H wrote:
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>>>>What would Steve Jobs call it?
>>>>
>>>>_____________________________
>>>>James H. Beach
>>>>Biodiversity Research Center
>>>>University of Kansas
>>>>1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>>>>Lawrence, KS 66045, USA
>>>>T 785 864-4645, F 785 864-5335
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
>>>>[mailto:seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Deana
>>>>Pennington
>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:16 PM
>>>>To: kepler list
>>>>Cc: seek-exec
>>>>Subject: Re: [seek-exec] [kepler-dev] semantics
>>>>
>>>>Gee, could you think of something a little more difficult to say???
>>>>Think "intuitive acronym".
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>>>>Mladen Vouk wrote:
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>>>>>Distributed authentication-capable distributed computing resources?
>>>>>mav
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>>>>>Deana Pennington wrote:
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>>>>>>Vision:
>>>>>>-distributed resources
>>>>>>-distributed scientists
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>>>>>>obviously, Kepler could be used for applications outside of science,
>>>>>>but since we're all focused on SCIENTIFIC workflows is seems
>>>>>>reasonable to me to focus on scientific resources. It's not limited
>>>>>>to eco/environmental kinds of applications, as clearly demonstrated by
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>>>>>>a domain specific actor library that includes genetics and chemistry.
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>>>>>>I need a word to put in the following sentence:
>>>>>>"And because Kepler is based on state of the art grid technologies
>>>>>>(see Appendices, Section 5.2), data and analytical processes from
>>>>>>other scientists can be exposed and utilized within Kepler. This is
>>>>>>done via the XXXGrid, which is basically a set of geographically
>>>>>>distributed data repositories, computing resources, and (eventually)
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>>>>workflow libraries."
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>>>>>>I can substitute "distributed computing technologies" for grid in the
>>>>>>first line, but Kepler will be accessing a specific set of distributed
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>>>>>>resources (those that the authentication system can handle) and I need
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>>>>>>a term for that set of resources.
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>>>>>>My [incomplete] ontology of the distributed resources, where some
>>>>>>other term can be substituted for grid if we can find a better term,
>>>>>>and there already exist many other specific grids that could be
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>>>>inserted into this:
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>>>>>>ScienceGrid
>>>>>>BiosphereGrid
>>>>>> EcoGrid
>>>>>> GeoGrid
>>>>>> OceanGrid
>>>>>> HydroGrid
>>>>>> AtmGrid
>>>>>> others
>>>>>>BiologicGrid
>>>>>> BiochemGrid
>>>>>> GenGrid
>>>>>> MolecularBioGrid
>>>>>>XXXScience
>>>>>> PhysicsGrid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Distributed resources can be allocated at different scales in the
>>>>>>hierarchy. EcoGrid would only apply to those resources that are
>>>>>>domain specific to ecology. BiosphereGrid would include the resources
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>>>>>>across disciplines within that set (e.g. all of the environmental
>>>>>>observatory data taken together). ScienceGrid would include all the
>>>>>>generic resources, like some data mining algorithm that could be used
>>>>>>by any of the domains. What I want is a term for ScienceGrid at the
>>>>>>top of the hierarchy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hopefully this helps define the vision, or at least will generate
>>>>>>additional discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Deana
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>>>>>>Mladen Vouk wrote:
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>>>>>>>Good point. What is the vision?
>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>Mladen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Shawn Bowers wrote:
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>>>>>>>>I think that a problem here is that there isn't really a shared
>>>>>>>>vision for what this thing you're trying to name will actually be
>>>>>>>>when it grows up ...
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>>>>>>>>-shawn
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>>>>>>>>Deana Pennington wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>I'm working on the Getting Started with Kepler document that Sam
>>>>>>>>>and Laura started. I'm trying to make it more generic, less
>>>>>>>>>specific to ecology since other sciences are now heavily
>>>>>>>>>represented as well. I think it's time to settle on a generic term
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>for the Grid being accessed
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>>>>>>>>>from within Kepler, subsets of which can always use more specific
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>>>>>>>>>terms
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>>>>>>>>>(e.g. EcoGrid). My suggestion would be to go with something simple
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>>>>>>>>>like Science Grid, or SciGrid. Thoughts? Are there other terms
>>>>>>>>>that we need to resolve before the documentation effort gets going
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>>>>in full force?
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>>>>>>>>>Deana
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>>>>--
>>>>********
>>>>
>>>>Deana D. Pennington, PhD
>>>>Long-term Ecological Research Network Office
>>>>
>>>>UNM Biology Department
>>>>MSC03 2020
>>>>1 University of New Mexico
>>>>Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
>>>>
>>>>505-277-2595 (office)
>>>>505-249-2604 (cell)
>>>>505 277-2541 (fax)
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>>>Deana D. Pennington, PhD
>>>Long-term Ecological Research Network Office
>>>
>>>UNM Biology Department
>>>MSC03 2020
>>>1 University of New Mexico
>>>Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
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Deana D. Pennington, PhD
Long-term Ecological Research Network Office
UNM Biology Department
MSC03 2020
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
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