[kepler-dev] [seek-exec] semantics

[William Michener]

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Beach, James H
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Deana Pennington; kepler list
Cc: seek-exec
Subject: Re: [seek-exec] [kepler-dev] semantics

 
What would Steve Jobs call it?

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Deana
Pennington
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:16 PM
To: kepler list
Cc: seek-exec
Subject: Re: [seek-exec] [kepler-dev] semantics

Gee, could you think of something a little more difficult to say???  
Think "intuitive acronym".

Mladen Vouk wrote:

> Distributed authentication-capable distributed computing resources?
> mav
>
> Deana Pennington wrote:
>
>>Vision:
>>-distributed resources
>>-distributed scientists
>>
>>obviously, Kepler could be used for applications outside of science, 
>>but since we're all focused on SCIENTIFIC workflows is seems 
>>reasonable to me to focus on scientific resources.  It's not limited 
>>to eco/environmental kinds of applications, as clearly demonstrated by

>>a domain specific actor library that includes genetics and chemistry.
>>
>>I need a word to put in the following sentence:
>>"And because Kepler is based on state of the art grid technologies 
>>(see Appendices, Section 5.2), data and analytical processes from 
>>other scientists can be exposed and utilized within Kepler.  This is 
>>done via the XXXGrid, which is basically a set of geographically 
>>distributed data repositories, computing resources, and (eventually)
workflow libraries."
>>
>>I can substitute "distributed computing technologies" for grid in the 
>>first line, but Kepler will be accessing a specific set of distributed

>>resources (those that the authentication system can handle) and I need

>>a term for that set of resources.
>>
>>My [incomplete] ontology of the distributed resources, where some 
>>other term can be substituted for grid if we can find a better term, 
>>and there already exist many other specific grids that could be
inserted into this:
>>
>>ScienceGrid
>>   BiosphereGrid
>>      EcoGrid
>>      GeoGrid
>>      OceanGrid
>>      HydroGrid
>>      AtmGrid
>>      others
>>   BiologicGrid
>>      BiochemGrid
>>      GenGrid
>>      MolecularBioGrid
>>   XXXScience
>>      PhysicsGrid
>>
>>Distributed resources can be allocated at different scales in the 
>>hierarchy.  EcoGrid would only apply to those resources that are 
>>domain specific to ecology.  BiosphereGrid would include the resources

>>across disciplines within that set (e.g. all of the environmental 
>>observatory data taken together).  ScienceGrid would include all the 
>>generic resources, like some data mining algorithm that could be used 
>>by any of the domains.  What I want is a term for ScienceGrid at the 
>>top of the hierarchy.
>>
>>Hopefully this helps define the vision, or at least will generate 
>>additional discussion.
>>
>>Deana
>>
>>
>>Mladen Vouk wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Good point. What is the vision?
>>>Thanks
>>>Mladen
>>>
>>>Shawn Bowers wrote:
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>>I think that a problem here is that there isn't really a shared 
>>>>vision for what this thing you're trying to name will actually be 
>>>>when it grows up ...
>>>>
>>>>-shawn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Deana Pennington wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>>I'm working on the Getting Started with Kepler document that Sam 
>>>>>and Laura started.  I'm trying to make it more generic, less 
>>>>>specific to ecology since other sciences are now heavily 
>>>>>represented as well.  I think it's time to settle on a generic term

>>>>>for the Grid being accessed
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>from within Kepler, subsets of which can always use more specific 
>>>>>terms
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>>(e.g. EcoGrid).  My suggestion would be to go with something simple

>>>>>like Science Grid, or SciGrid.  Thoughts?  Are there other terms 
>>>>>that we need to resolve before the documentation effort gets going
in full force?
>>>>>
>>>>>Deana
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
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>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>  
>>


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