[kepler-dev] [Ptolemy] "Look Inside" changed to "Open Actor"
Matthew Brooke
brooke at nceas.ucsb.edu
Mon Dec 19 11:58:55 PST 2005
FWIW - Internet Explorer and Firefox use F11 as fullscreen toggle
Shawn Bowers wrote:
> Laura L. Downey wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Sorry to be a bit lagging in replying to this.
>>
>> For Kepler, I've proposed:
>>
>> Zoom Reset Ctrl+M
>> Zoom In Ctrl++
>> Zoom Out Ctrl+-
>> Zoom Fit (no shortcut proposed)
>> Full Screen Ctrl+F
>
> In addition to Edward's comments ... control-f is commonly
> used in web browsers and other apps to mean "find". (Note, I'm
> assuming you mean a lower-case 'f' here). Note that a find
> command for a workflow (e.g., to find all occurrences of an
> actor, possibly nested many layers down) would be really useful,
> and in my opinion ctrl+f should be reserved for this functionality.
>
> I've only a couple of times used full-screen in Kepler -- mainly
> to see what it does. I doubt it will be used often. The one
> application where I do use full screen a bunch is in Adobe Acrobat,
> where ctrl+l is used (... why this binding is used, I'm not sure)
>
> -shawn
>
>> Automate Layout Ctrl+T
>>
>> So, the ctrl++ and ctrl+- are good for zoom in and zoom out.
>>
>> As a side note, I've proposed some variations upon the original Ptolemy
>> menus for Kepler and therefore some variations on the mnemonics and
>> shortcuts followed in terms of trying to get everything coordinated. For
>> menus, I was trying to give a more standard set of menu items grouped like
>> users would expect in terms of using other desktop applications.
>>
>> And I've added some standard menu items and some convenience functions like
>> Close, Close All, list of most recently opened workflows, and a Windows menu
>> to more easily navigate between several workflows open at a time, and also
>> menu items that pertain to functionality that Kepler is adding e.g., to
>> support semantic annotation.
>>
>> For reference:
>> http://kepler-project.org/Wiki.jsp?page=MenuAndToolBarReDesign
>>
>> So because of this I had to re-organize the mnemonics and shortcuts and it
>> was quite a task to walk through every single item (which it sounds like
>> Edward did in the original Ptolemy also) and make sure I was using the
>> standards like ctrl+0 for open, and assigning meaningful shortcuts (trying
>> to use a letter within menu item it is associated with).
>>
>> Hope this clarifies.
>>
>> Laura L. Downey
>> Senior Usability Engineer
>> LTER Network Office
>> Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
>> 1 University of New Mexico
>> Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
>> 505.277.3157 phone
>> 505.277-2541 fax
>> ldowney at lternet.edu
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cxh at EECS.Berkeley.EDU [mailto:cxh at EECS.Berkeley.EDU]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:28 PM
>> To: Laura L. Downey
>> Cc: ptresearch at chess.eecs.berkeley.edu; kepler-dev at ecoinformatics.org
>> Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] [Ptolemy] "Look Inside" changed to "Open Actor"
>>
>> Hi Laura,
>>
>> Double click is probably not going to happen any time soon, there is
>> a separate bug for it:
>> http://bugzilla.ecoinformatics.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2109
>>
>> About Control+ and Control+- for zooming, you wrote:
>>
>>> I am also proposing ctrl++ and ctrl+- as shortcuts for zoom in
>>> and zoom out. These are also pretty standard across many
>>> programs. They do not appea r in my design because the program
>>> I'm using for prototyping wouldn't allow me t
>> BTW - Ctrl++ is really Ctrl+Shift+= because the + is Shift+=
>>
>> ptolemy/vergil/basic/BasicGraphFrame.java has the following bindings:
>> Zoom In Ctrl+Shift+=
>> Zoom Reset Ctrl+=
>> Zoom Fit Ctrl+Shift+-
>> Zoom Out Ctrl+-
>>
>> Thus, I think we have what you propose? Let me know if I'm wrong
>> about this.
>>
>> _Christopher
>>
>> --------
>>
>> In the short term, I've moved back to Control-L as a shortcut.
>>
>> I think we can't have multiple key stroke shortcuts, so C-x f
>> is out.
>>
>> I'll look in to getting double click to work, but probably not today.
>>
>> I can see about setting up short cuts for zoom in and zoom out.
>>
>> I've not yet updated the docs.
>>
>> So, the bug remains open.
>>
>> _Christopher
>>
>>
>> --------
>>
>> If you look here:
>> http://kepler-project.org/Wiki.jsp?page=MenuAndToolBarReDesign
>>
>> You'll see what I've proposed for Kepler for a revamping of the menu
>> sy
>> stem
>> .
>> In it, Ctrl-O is used for Open File, and as Edward has noted this is
>> fa
>> irly
>> standard in Windows and some other systems/programs. When I
>> reviewed t
>> he
>> shortcuts, I looked at several programs to see what the common
>> shortcut
>> usages were.
>>
>> I am proposing "O" as a mnemonic for the "Open Actor" item but I did
>> no
>> t
>> provide a shortcut simply because it is not needed since we had
>> decided
>> to
>> go with double clicking an actor as opening it.
>>
>> I am also proposing ctrl++ and ctrl+- as shortcuts for zoom in and
>> zoom
>> out
>> .
>> These are also pretty standard across many programs. They do not
>> appea
>> r in
>> my design because the program I'm using for prototyping wouldn't
>> allow
>> me t
>> o
>> specify those special characters (+ and -) as shortcuts.
>>
>> BTW, ctrl+A is most often used for Select All in Microsoft I believe
>> ev
>> en
>> though I proposed using it for Save As which I've seen in some
>> programs
>> and
>> because right now we don't have a "Select All" in Kepler. "A" is
>> usual
>> ly
>> the mnemonic for Save As so that was an attempt to match the same
>> lette
>> r.
>>
>> Laura L. Downey
>> Senior Usability Engineer
>> LTER Network Office
>> Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
>> 1 University of New Mexico
>> Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
>> 505.277.3157 phone
>> 505.277-2541 fax
>> ldowney at lternet.edu
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
>> [mailto:kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Edward
>> A. L
>> ee
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:34 AM
>> To: Christopher Brooks
>> Cc: ptresearch at chess.eecs.berkeley.edu;
>> kepler-dev at ecoinformatics.org
>> Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] [Ptolemy] "Look Inside" changed to "Open
>> Acto
>> r"
>>
>>
>> I think we should stick with Windows conventions as much as
>> possible...
>> I actually put a great deal of thought into the shortcuts to try to
>> get
>> them to match Microsoft standards as much as possible and to have
>> match
>> ing
>> mnemonics... This was probably one reason for calling this "Look
>> Inside
>> ".
>> But I too like "Open Actor" better...
>>
>> So I suggest rolling back to Control-L...
>>
>> Edward
>>
>> At 08:21 PM 12/12/2005 -0800, Christopher Brooks wrote:
>> >Yah, I figure it that it would be a problem.
>> >
>> >Firefox, IE and MS Word all have Control-O as File Open.
>> >
>> >I see several options with minus and pluses:
>> >
>> >1) Stick with Control-O as the shortcut for "Open Actor"
>> > - Annoy all users used to lots of Windows Apps
>> > + Convenient and Mnemonic
>> >2) Go back to Control-L
>> > - Not Mnemonic, but makes a good trivia question
>> > + Does not break users used to lots of Windows Apps
>> > + Edward and I don't have to learn a new shortcut
>> >3) Choose another key, such as Control-A
>> > -/+ Sort of Mnemonic
>> > - Conflicts with Select All
>> >
>> >For now, I'll roll back to Control-L.
>> >I think this might be why we stuck with Look Inside.
>> >
>> >Comments?
>> >
>> >_Christopher
>> >
>> >--------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Control-O is already bound to "Open File", so I think this
>> change
>> > will break that... Using Control-O for open file is pretty
>> common
>> > in Windows programs...
>> >
>> > Edward
>> >
>> > At 07:00 PM 12/12/2005 -0800, Christopher Brooks wrote:
>> > >The Kepler group asked that "Look Inside" be changed to "Open
>> Ac
>> tor"
>> .
>> > >[Personally, I was opting for "Open Sesame" ]
>> > >
>> > >http://bugzilla.ecoinformatics.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2110
>> > >
>> > >I went ahead and made this change to
>> > > ptolemy/vergil/actor/ActorController.java
>> > >I also modified the short cut so that Control-O now opens the
>> > >actor instead of Control-L. If there is great hue and cry, I
>> su
>> ppos
>> e
>> > >we could have both Control-O and Control-L but I don't see
>> how t
>> o do
>> > >this.
>> > >
>> > >ActorController has a protected variable named
>> _lookInsideAction
>> which
>> > >I did not rename so as to preserve backward compatibility
>> with
>> > >subclasses of this class.
>> > >
>> > >I updated a few demos as well.
>> > >
>> > >These classes:
>> > > ptolemy/chic/ChicController.java
>> > > ptolemy/vergil/fsm/TransitionController.java
>> > > ptolemy/vergil/fsm/StateController.java
>> > >all still have "Look Inside" because the "Look Inside" action
>> lo
>> oks
>> > >inside a Chic node or a transition or a state, which are all
>> not
>> > >actors. Thus "Open Actor" does not make much sense in for
>> those
>> > >classes. If someone has a strong opinion, I could change
>> them a
>> s
>> > >well.
>> > >
>> > >Once the dust settles, I'll make a pass through the docs and
>> fix
>> up
>> > >references to "Look Inside".
>> > >
>> > >_Christopher
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >_______________________________________________
>> > >Ptolemy maillist - Ptolemy at chess.eecs.berkeley.edu
>> > >http://chess.eecs.berkeley.edu/ptolemy/listinfo/ptolemy
>> >
>> > ------------
>> > Edward A. Lee
>> > Professor, Chair of the EE Division, Associate Chair of EECS
>> > 231 Cory Hall, UC Berkeley, Berkeley, CA 94720
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>> >
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