[kepler-dev] [Ptolemy] "Look Inside" changed to "Open Actor"
Shawn Bowers
sbowers at ucdavis.edu
Mon Dec 19 11:26:05 PST 2005
Laura L. Downey wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Sorry to be a bit lagging in replying to this.
>
> For Kepler, I've proposed:
>
> Zoom Reset Ctrl+M
> Zoom In Ctrl++
> Zoom Out Ctrl+-
> Zoom Fit (no shortcut proposed)
> Full Screen Ctrl+F
In addition to Edward's comments ... control-f is commonly
used in web browsers and other apps to mean "find". (Note, I'm
assuming you mean a lower-case 'f' here). Note that a find
command for a workflow (e.g., to find all occurrences of an
actor, possibly nested many layers down) would be really useful,
and in my opinion ctrl+f should be reserved for this functionality.
I've only a couple of times used full-screen in Kepler -- mainly
to see what it does. I doubt it will be used often. The one
application where I do use full screen a bunch is in Adobe Acrobat,
where ctrl+l is used (... why this binding is used, I'm not sure)
-shawn
> Automate Layout Ctrl+T
>
> So, the ctrl++ and ctrl+- are good for zoom in and zoom out.
>
> As a side note, I've proposed some variations upon the original Ptolemy
> menus for Kepler and therefore some variations on the mnemonics and
> shortcuts followed in terms of trying to get everything coordinated. For
> menus, I was trying to give a more standard set of menu items grouped like
> users would expect in terms of using other desktop applications.
>
> And I've added some standard menu items and some convenience functions like
> Close, Close All, list of most recently opened workflows, and a Windows menu
> to more easily navigate between several workflows open at a time, and also
> menu items that pertain to functionality that Kepler is adding e.g., to
> support semantic annotation.
>
> For reference:
> http://kepler-project.org/Wiki.jsp?page=MenuAndToolBarReDesign
>
> So because of this I had to re-organize the mnemonics and shortcuts and it
> was quite a task to walk through every single item (which it sounds like
> Edward did in the original Ptolemy also) and make sure I was using the
> standards like ctrl+0 for open, and assigning meaningful shortcuts (trying
> to use a letter within menu item it is associated with).
>
> Hope this clarifies.
>
> Laura L. Downey
> Senior Usability Engineer
> LTER Network Office
> Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
> 1 University of New Mexico
> Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
> 505.277.3157 phone
> 505.277-2541 fax
> ldowney at lternet.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cxh at EECS.Berkeley.EDU [mailto:cxh at EECS.Berkeley.EDU]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:28 PM
> To: Laura L. Downey
> Cc: ptresearch at chess.eecs.berkeley.edu; kepler-dev at ecoinformatics.org
> Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] [Ptolemy] "Look Inside" changed to "Open Actor"
>
> Hi Laura,
>
> Double click is probably not going to happen any time soon, there is
> a separate bug for it:
> http://bugzilla.ecoinformatics.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2109
>
> About Control+ and Control+- for zooming, you wrote:
>
>> I am also proposing ctrl++ and ctrl+- as shortcuts for zoom in
>> and zoom out. These are also pretty standard across many
>> programs. They do not appea r in my design because the program
>> I'm using for prototyping wouldn't allow me t
>
> BTW - Ctrl++ is really Ctrl+Shift+= because the + is Shift+=
>
> ptolemy/vergil/basic/BasicGraphFrame.java has the following bindings:
> Zoom In Ctrl+Shift+=
> Zoom Reset Ctrl+=
> Zoom Fit Ctrl+Shift+-
> Zoom Out Ctrl+-
>
> Thus, I think we have what you propose? Let me know if I'm wrong
> about this.
>
> _Christopher
>
> --------
>
> In the short term, I've moved back to Control-L as a shortcut.
>
> I think we can't have multiple key stroke shortcuts, so C-x f
> is out.
>
> I'll look in to getting double click to work, but probably not today.
>
> I can see about setting up short cuts for zoom in and zoom out.
>
> I've not yet updated the docs.
>
> So, the bug remains open.
>
> _Christopher
>
>
> --------
>
> If you look here:
> http://kepler-project.org/Wiki.jsp?page=MenuAndToolBarReDesign
>
> You'll see what I've proposed for Kepler for a revamping of the menu
> sy
> stem
> .
> In it, Ctrl-O is used for Open File, and as Edward has noted this is
> fa
> irly
> standard in Windows and some other systems/programs. When I
> reviewed t
> he
> shortcuts, I looked at several programs to see what the common
> shortcut
> usages were.
>
> I am proposing "O" as a mnemonic for the "Open Actor" item but I did
> no
> t
> provide a shortcut simply because it is not needed since we had
> decided
> to
> go with double clicking an actor as opening it.
>
> I am also proposing ctrl++ and ctrl+- as shortcuts for zoom in and
> zoom
> out
> .
> These are also pretty standard across many programs. They do not
> appea
> r in
> my design because the program I'm using for prototyping wouldn't
> allow
> me t
> o
> specify those special characters (+ and -) as shortcuts.
>
> BTW, ctrl+A is most often used for Select All in Microsoft I believe
> ev
> en
> though I proposed using it for Save As which I've seen in some
> programs
> and
> because right now we don't have a "Select All" in Kepler. "A" is
> usual
> ly
> the mnemonic for Save As so that was an attempt to match the same
> lette
> r.
>
> Laura L. Downey
> Senior Usability Engineer
> LTER Network Office
> Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
> 1 University of New Mexico
> Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
> 505.277.3157 phone
> 505.277-2541 fax
> ldowney at lternet.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
> [mailto:kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Edward
> A. L
> ee
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:34 AM
> To: Christopher Brooks
> Cc: ptresearch at chess.eecs.berkeley.edu;
> kepler-dev at ecoinformatics.org
> Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] [Ptolemy] "Look Inside" changed to "Open
> Acto
> r"
>
>
> I think we should stick with Windows conventions as much as
> possible...
> I actually put a great deal of thought into the shortcuts to try to
> get
> them to match Microsoft standards as much as possible and to have
> match
> ing
> mnemonics... This was probably one reason for calling this "Look
> Inside
> ".
> But I too like "Open Actor" better...
>
> So I suggest rolling back to Control-L...
>
> Edward
>
> At 08:21 PM 12/12/2005 -0800, Christopher Brooks wrote:
> >Yah, I figure it that it would be a problem.
> >
> >Firefox, IE and MS Word all have Control-O as File Open.
> >
> >I see several options with minus and pluses:
> >
> >1) Stick with Control-O as the shortcut for "Open Actor"
> > - Annoy all users used to lots of Windows Apps
> > + Convenient and Mnemonic
> >2) Go back to Control-L
> > - Not Mnemonic, but makes a good trivia question
> > + Does not break users used to lots of Windows Apps
> > + Edward and I don't have to learn a new shortcut
> >3) Choose another key, such as Control-A
> > -/+ Sort of Mnemonic
> > - Conflicts with Select All
> >
> >For now, I'll roll back to Control-L.
> >I think this might be why we stuck with Look Inside.
> >
> >Comments?
> >
> >_Christopher
> >
> >--------
> >
> >
> >
> > Control-O is already bound to "Open File", so I think this
> change
> > will break that... Using Control-O for open file is pretty
> common
> > in Windows programs...
> >
> > Edward
> >
> > At 07:00 PM 12/12/2005 -0800, Christopher Brooks wrote:
> > >The Kepler group asked that "Look Inside" be changed to "Open
> Ac
> tor"
> .
> > >[Personally, I was opting for "Open Sesame" ]
> > >
> > >http://bugzilla.ecoinformatics.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2110
> > >
> > >I went ahead and made this change to
> > > ptolemy/vergil/actor/ActorController.java
> > >I also modified the short cut so that Control-O now opens the
> > >actor instead of Control-L. If there is great hue and cry, I
> su
> ppos
> e
> > >we could have both Control-O and Control-L but I don't see
> how t
> o do
> > >this.
> > >
> > >ActorController has a protected variable named
> _lookInsideAction
> which
> > >I did not rename so as to preserve backward compatibility
> with
> > >subclasses of this class.
> > >
> > >I updated a few demos as well.
> > >
> > >These classes:
> > > ptolemy/chic/ChicController.java
> > > ptolemy/vergil/fsm/TransitionController.java
> > > ptolemy/vergil/fsm/StateController.java
> > >all still have "Look Inside" because the "Look Inside" action
> lo
> oks
> > >inside a Chic node or a transition or a state, which are all
> not
> > >actors. Thus "Open Actor" does not make much sense in for
> those
> > >classes. If someone has a strong opinion, I could change
> them a
> s
> > >well.
> > >
> > >Once the dust settles, I'll make a pass through the docs and
> fix
> up
> > >references to "Look Inside".
> > >
> > >_Christopher
> > >
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Ptolemy maillist - Ptolemy at chess.eecs.berkeley.edu
> > >http://chess.eecs.berkeley.edu/ptolemy/listinfo/ptolemy
> >
> > ------------
> > Edward A. Lee
> > Professor, Chair of the EE Division, Associate Chair of EECS
> > 231 Cory Hall, UC Berkeley, Berkeley, CA 94720
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> >
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> ------------
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