[SEEK-Taxon] RE: GBIF and TCS-LC for data exchange

Yde de Jong yjong at science.uva.nl
Mon Feb 28 11:59:28 PST 2005


Dear Matt,

To me an e-mail list for discussion combined with a Wiki to back-up 
information and show the state of the art sound OK.

Kind regards,

Yde





>Hi Rich,
>
>I agree that email lists are far easier to follow, so I think an 
>email list for this discussion is a good idea.  Personally I think 
>seek-taxon is a fine place for these sorts of discussions, as the 
>main emphasis of seek-taxon is producing the TCS and the 
>relationship between LC and TCS is so tight.  However, we also run 
>many email lists and I could easily set up a list specifically for 
>LC in a few minutes if that were deemed a better alternative. 
>Please just let me know.
>
>I do think wiki's play a role though (we use them in SEEK).  With a 
>Wiki, I think it is easier to consolidate information and present 
>the 'current' view of an idea or topic.  We use them to distill the 
>essence of emailand other conversations into design documents.  I 
>think it woud be positive if somebody kept abrest of the issues and 
>kept one of the wikis (SEEK-taxon, TCS, LC, or other) up-to-date 
>with the current thought.  This allows greater forward progress, as 
>email threads eventualy are lost and forgotten.
>
>Cheers,
>Matt
>
>Richard Pyle wrote:
>>>Rich wrote:
>>>
>>>>However, if Wiki it is to be, I think it
>>>>would be tremendously more efficient for making progress if we could
>>>>designate ONE Wiki as the location where the LC/TCS integration
>>>
>>>issues are
>>>
>>>>discussed.
>>>
>>>Well, one Wiki would contain many similar pages, each contains the
>>>same dicrussion.
>>
>>
>>True -- but I was referring mostly to the two (or more?) entirely different
>>Wiki sites on which disccussions of LC and its connection with TCS have
>>historically occurred.
>>
>>>Following Wiki is also harder than reading e-mail especially over
>>>time difference, in my experience.
>>
>>
>>Emboldened by Paul's and James' comments, perhaps I could suggest
>>establishing an email list dedicated to LC, including its relationship with
>>TCS.  The seek-taxon list could be a forum for this sort of discussion, but
>>I have a hunch that it might represent too much clutter for that list
>>(SEEKers? Your thoughts?)  The ICZN list is hosted here at Bishop Museum --
>>if nobody else has a convenient way to establish an email discussion list, I
>>could inquire about setting up one here for LC.
>>
>>Of course, the email lists and Wikis are not mutually exclusive mechanisms
>>for discussion.  They can complement each other rather nicely, I think. I
>>understand the theoretically improved efficiency and archivability and
>>flexibility offered by a Wiki over a straightforward email list; and the
>>"Wiki-Warriors" could take it upon themselves to transfer significant email
>>list posts over to the Wiki (I would be willing to serve in this capacity).
>>The Wiki could also serve as a repository for downloadable files.  However,
>>if the absence of an email list means a significant reduction in discussion
>>input from certain highly insightful folks (like Paul), then I think it
>>would be a mistake not to establish such an email list.
>>
>>Also, there's nothing like an email message in an indbox (especially one
>>that includes content, rather than simple links to updated Wiki pages) to
>>keep a discussion moving forward.
>>
>>Aloha,
>>Rich
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