[SEEK-Taxon] Draft TES

Wed Jul 28 14:33:17 PDT 2004

Under this circumstance you will most likely want to actually rip the 
ABCDNameTypes.xsd into the place you took out the include statement. 
Otherwise, some things in schema design view will be a bit confusing.

The classical tutorials for most things XML'sh are at zvon.org

As you observe, for the case of schema reading, the Schema Design view 
in Spy will make the most sense. For most people, there is not a lot of 
merit to reading text versions of an XML Schema and it may be especially 
confusing because most of the details are about the syntax of XML 
Schema, not about the logical structure revealed by the Schema Design 
view.  In particular, I am not sure how useful the ZVON Schema tutorial 
will prove.

Bob Morris

Richard Pyle wrote:
> Thanks, Aimee.  I'll focus on the SEEK-specific stuff for now, and hold-off
> on the ABCDNameTypes comments for later.
> 
> It may take a while to get my head around it -- not because I don't
> understand the draft model; but because I'm still very new to deciphering
> XML schemas.  I get the basics, but I don't have a good handle on some of
> the specifics.  To that end, is there any good online reference I can turn
> to for an introduction/tutorial to understanding XML?  I'm using XMLSpy Home
> Edition (v.5, rel.3).  Unfortunately, this edition doesn't allow viewing of
> schemas with "include" statements in the Schema/WSDL Design View (the view
> that makes the most intuitive sense to this XML newbie).  So, to see the
> SEEK elements, I have to delete the "include" statement for the
> ABCDNameTypes file (no big whoop -- I can examine that separately).
> 
> Any advice/recommendations from the XML/XMLSpy Literati would be MUCH
> appreciated!
> 
> Aloha,
> Rich
> 
> Richard L. Pyle, PhD
> Natural Sciences Database Coordinator, Bishop Museum
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aimee Stewart [mailto:astewart at ku.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:51 AM
> To: Richard Pyle
> Cc: SEEK Taxon
> Subject: Re: [SEEK-Taxon] Draft TES
> 
> 
> Hi Rich,
> 
> We included ABCDNameTypes to stay as close to the TDWG schema as possible,
> however, I think a modification of that might be reasonable for SEEK.  In
> which case, we could discuss whether we want to take their types as is, or
> strike out in another direction.
> 
> Aimee
> 
> 
> Richard Pyle wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Sorry for the barrage of minutia posts...
> 
> If I have comments about the ABCDNamesTypes, should I post them here, or
> send them directly to the ABCD folks?
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: seek-taxon-admin at ecoinformatics.org
> [mailto:seek-taxon-admin at ecoinformatics.org]On Behalf Of Richard Pyle
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:38 AM
> To: astewart at ku.edu
> Cc: rgales at eecs.ku.edu; SEEK Taxon
> Subject: RE: [SEEK-Taxon] Draft TES
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Aimee,
> 
> Dang!  Your message arrived just as I sent my last (Google led me to the
> same URL you provided).
> 
> Many thanks!
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aimee Stewart [mailto:astewart at ku.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:33 AM
> To: Richard Pyle
> Cc: rgales at eecs.ku.edu; SEEK Taxon
> Subject: Re: [SEEK-Taxon] Draft TES
> 
> 
> Hi Rich,
> 
> ABCDNamesTypes.xsd is also present in the same CVS directory.
> http://cvs.ecoinformatics.org/cvs/cvsweb.cgi/seek/projects/taxon/s
> chemas/ABC
> DNameTypes.xsd
> 
> Take care,
> Aimee
> 
> 
> 
> Richard Pyle wrote:
> Thanks, Rob.
> 
> Where might I find a copy of "ABCDNamesTypes.xsd", which I'm prompted for
> when trying to open the file in XMLSpy?
> 
> Aloha,
> Rich
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: seek-taxon-admin at ecoinformatics.org
> [mailto:seek-taxon-admin at ecoinformatics.org]On Behalf Of Robert Gales
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:47 AM
> To: SEEK Taxon
> Subject: [SEEK-Taxon] Draft TES
> 
> 
> Good Afternoon Folks,
> 
> There is a draft of the TES containing some proposed rearrangements and
> modifications to the current schema available on CVS at
> http://cvs.ecoinformatics.org/cvs/cvsweb.cgi/seek/projects/taxon/s
> chemas/tes_draft.xsd.
> 
> 
> The modifications are from many discussions and are attempts at
> addressing the issues that have been a topic of conversation for the
> last few months (authoring relationships between already existing
> concepts, reducing concept inflation, etc).
> 
> You are all strongly encouraged to examine the draft and offer
> constructive criticism.
> 
> Cheers,
> Rob
> 
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