[seek-kr] Re: next steps for KR/SMS

[Bertram Ludaescher]

Rich:

First good luck with the "do-it-yourself wedding"! 
(you shouldn't answer my emails with your upcoming big event ;-)

As for (1): got it, will do when I get a chance.

Re (2): In my Prolog hack, I didn't do the one and most obvious useful 
thing -- thanks for just telling me!! (I did weird things on
equivalence classes of dependent units .... I knew there was something 
simpler one could do...)

until soon and enjoy your last hours as a bachelor ;-)

Bertram

>>>>> "RW" == Rich Williams <rwilliams at nceas.ucsb.edu> writes:
RW> 
RW> Hey Bertram -
RW> I'm not going on a honeymoon, and we're having a do-it-yourself wedding
RW> party, so today and tomorrow are super busy organizing stuff, but I will be
RW> around and working next week.
RW> 
RW> Do you have Protege installed?  If so, do File/Save in Format...  to save an
RW> ontology in a different format.  I think it has an RDF-S option in the basic
RW> installation.  I've attached what Protege gave me when I did that operation
RW> on the measurements ontology.  There are also a couple of XML backend
RW> plugins available (http://protege.stanford.edu/plugins.html).
RW> 
RW> Not sure what you're asking in question 2.  Basically, you'd first check
RW> that the two quantities had the same underlying SI unit type and then use
RW> the multiplier and offset to do the conversion.  Beyond that, I'm not sure
RW> what you need to know for what you're trying to do.
RW> 
RW> Rich
RW> 
RW> -----Original Message-----
RW> From: Bertram Ludaescher [mailto:ludaesch at sdsc.edu]
RW> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:30 PM
RW> To: Rich Williams
RW> Cc: Matt Jones; Deana Pennington; Mark Schildhauer;
RW> seek-kr at ecoinformatics.org; Bertram Ludaescher; Bill Michener
RW> Subject: RE: [seek-kr] Re: next steps for KR/SMS
RW> 
RW> 
RW> 
RW> 
RW> Hi Rich:
RW> 
RW> Getting married huh? Congratulations!
RW> 
RW> Hey -- before you go into merry marry land (and on honey moon??), two
RW> quick questions:
RW> 
RW> 1. would you have a simple XML or RDF or whatever version of your
RW> ontology lying around? Where? Thanks! (will do some Prolog hacks on it
RW> if you don't mind)
RW> 
RW> 2. cna you explain me with an example how I can do unit conversions
RW> based on the EML unit dictionary?
RW> 
RW> Ideally can you send both things right now? I'm working on a short
RW> report on my unit dictionary hack at the last SEEK dev meeting in SD.
RW> And (1) and even more so (2) would be helpful.
RW> 
RW> cheers
RW> 
RW> Bertram
RW> 
RW> 
RW> 
RW> 
>>>>> "RW" == Rich Williams <rwilliams at nceas.ucsb.edu> writes:
RW> 
RW> Hi Deana -
RW> The food web ontology project is composed of various sub-ontologies, all
RW> of
RW> which are in the place Matt indicated.  They are combined in a project
RW> called EcologicalNetworks.  As a quick and dirty way of viewing the
RW> ontology
RW> without having Protege, I put a set of html files that allow you to
RW> browse
RW> the ontology in the html folder off WowKB.  I did the same for the
RW> Measurements ontology in a folder called MeasurementsHtml off the
RW> kr/ontologies folder.  In either case, load index.html into your browser
RW> to
RW> view the concept hierarchy.
RW> 
RW> This display assumes some familiarity with the Protege knowledge model.
RW> I
RW> think the best place to learn about it is
RW> 
RW> http://protege.stanford.edu/publications/ontology_development/ontology101.ht
RW> ml, or perhaps some of the other Protege documentation at
RW> http://protege.stanford.edu/useit.html.
RW> 
RW> Hope this is useful.  More to come soon, I'm just very buried right now
RW> with
RW> getting ready to get married on Saturday, so I might be kinda slow...
RW> 
RW> Rich
RW> 
RW> -----Original Message-----
RW> From: seek-kr-admin at ecoinformatics.org
RW> [mailto:seek-kr-admin at ecoinformatics.org]On Behalf Of Matt Jones
RW> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:44 PM
RW> To: Deana Pennington
RW> Cc: Mark Schildhauer; seek-kr at ecoinformatics.org; Rich Williams; Bertram
RW> Ludaescher; Bill Michener
RW> Subject: Re: [seek-kr] Re: next steps for KR/SMS
RW> 
RW> 
RW> Deana,
RW> 
RW> I think Rich's food web ontology is actually from a different non-SEEK
RW> project called "Webs on the Web (WOW)".  You can see it by checking out
RW> another module of CVS (wow) in addition to the seek module you already
RW> have.  If you only want the ontology from WOW, you can just check out
RW> "wow/WowKB".
RW> 
RW> You need Protege to view both this and the Measurements ontology that
RW> Rich put in place.  Hopefully he can generate some images soon and add
RW> those to cvs for people that want a quick glance but don't have Protege.
RW> 
RW> Matt
RW> 
RW> Deana Pennington wrote:
>>> I saw the docs Rich put in CVS on measurement ontologies and semantics
>>> (these were helpful to me).  I didn't see anything on food webs.  Do I
>>> have to install Protege to be able to look at it?
RW> --
RW> -------------------------------------------------------------------
RW> Matt Jones                                     jones at nceas.ucsb.edu
RW> http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu/    Fax: 425-920-2439    Ph: 907-789-0496
RW> National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis (NCEAS)
RW> University of California Santa Barbara
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