LTER server directory structure
Dan Higgins
higgins at nceas.ucsb.edu
Thu Mar 27 10:29:08 PST 2003
Ed,
Thank you very much for putting together a detailed description of
your problem. I think I have it figured out due to the details that you
provided.
Apparently, the problem is due to a single character in your data
file! --- namely the 'degree' character in the title row for the
'Temperature" column. If you replace the degree symbol with 'deg' (or
simply remove the symbol) Morpho should run properly when you click the
Finish button. (At least it does for me.)
We ran into a similar problem once before and were just discussing
it yesterday. Some editors do not encode special characters (like the
degree character) properly, even though they can be displayed. (In this
case 'properly' means in unicode, which Morpho is supposed to handle.)
So we need to modify Morpho to filter such special characters and
handle them properly. In the mean time, if you avoid using such
characters Morpho should operate OK.
Let me know if this does not solve your problem. And thank you very
much for the time involved in carefully documenting how the problem
occurred. (Please feel free to report any additional problems that may
come up
Dan Higgins
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Beighley wrote:
> Attached is a detailed description of my morpho problem including the
> sample data I am trying to upload.
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> Ed
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> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Dan Higgins [mailto:higgins at nceas.ucsb.edu]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 24, 2003 9:25 AM
> *To:* Ed Beighley; morpho-dev
> *Subject:* Re: LTER server directory structure
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> Ed,
> Sorry to hear that you are having problems with Morpho. I saw Matt
> Jones' response, and thought I might add a few more comments/questions
> to help us determine the problem.
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> First, it seems that Morpho starts up OK and you are trying to
> create a new package with some existing set of data. (i.e. you are
> working with a screen that has the title "Text Import Wizard"). And
> you have the problem that 'nothing happens' when you click the
> 'Finish' button on that screen?
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> When you click the Finish button in the Text Import Wizard, the
> table display should disappear and a window with the title 'Data
> Package Wizard' should appear. _Do you see this window_? (It also has
> a Finish button; in addition, it also has a check box asking if you
> want to send the package to the network.) If you see this window,
> then try saving the package but NOT sending the package to the network
> and see if things work locally. (Sending a big (>10MB) datafile over
> the network can take more than 10 minutes).
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> Let me know which 'Finish' button you are having the 'nothing
> happens' problem and we can then procede.
>
> Dan Higgins
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> Ed Beighley wrote:
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>I tried another machine: same problem, nothing happens when I push the
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>finish button after defining the table columns.
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>Both Machines have Win2000. The 1st computer has 1GB of raw, and the 2nd
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>computer has 392 MB of ram. The 1st computer is loaded in every aspect.
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>I tried to modify the reduce the RAM requirements. I tried the default
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>512 and changed it to 128. Both failed to work.
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>I tried both versions of MORPHO 1.3 for windows with & without Java.
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>For the installation with Java, I used my version of java and the
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>version that came with MORPHO. Both failed to work.
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>I'll be out of town until Wed. So, if you respond, I'll get back to you
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>on Thursday. Thanks for any help you can provide.
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>-----Original Message-----
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>From: Christopher Jones [mailto:cjones at lifesci.ucsb.edu]
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>Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 4:42 PM
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>To: Beighley
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>Cc: evans at lifesci.ucsb.edu <mailto:evans at lifesci.ucsb.edu>; ja_jones at lifesci.ucsb.edu <mailto:ja_jones at lifesci.ucsb.edu>;
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>mob at icess.ucsb.edu <mailto:mob at icess.ucsb.edu>; luan at lifesci.ucsb.edu <mailto:luan at lifesci.ucsb.edu>; jwoods at lifesci.ucsb.edu <mailto:jwoods at lifesci.ucsb.edu>;
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>cjones at lifesci.ucsb.edu <mailto:cjones at lifesci.ucsb.edu>; coombs at lifesci.ucsb.edu <mailto:coombs at lifesci.ucsb.edu>;
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>morpho-dev at ecoinformatics.org <mailto:morpho-dev at ecoinformatics.org>
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>Subject: Re: LTER server directory structure
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>Ed -
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>On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 03:15 PM, Beighley wrote:
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>>When I make my profile, what organization should I select? LTER??
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>Yes, LTER. In Morpho, the entire LTER-wide community (including SBC
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>LTER folks) can authenticate against the LTER Network Office personnel
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>database. If you don't have a user name or password, Wei-Yee Luan can
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>get the ball rolling on that. Check at:
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>http://intranet.lternet.edu/directory/
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>If you've forgotten your password, follow the instructions at:
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>http://intranet.lternet.edu/contact/
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>>I did what you said. I can login etc. I tried to import data, and when
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>>I
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>>get the finish part I press the finish button, but nothing seems to
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>>happen. Any suggestions.
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>>Ed
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>The only time that I've seen this happen is with Bryn - it seemed to be
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>associated with having too little memory available for what the java
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>process is requesting. I'm not sure though, may just seem to be
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>correlated, but not the cause. We edited the morpho.bat file to reduce
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>the memory request from java.
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>It's important to know what OS you're on, how much memory you have,
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>etc. to troubleshoot something like this over email. For instance, if
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>you're on Windows 98, and have 128 megs of RAM, then you'd have the
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>same setup as Bryn, which may indicate that it's a Win98 thing, or
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>perhaps a memory issue.
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>What happens when you try it on another machine? or a more robust
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>machine? Same result?
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>I'm cc'ing the morpho-dev at ecoinformatics.org <mailto:morpho-dev at ecoinformatics.org> email address since the
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>folks on this list are those that are developing the software, and
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>would be able to field questions just as well or better than I can. If
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>you'd like to join this list, go to:
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>http://www.ecoinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo and go to the morpho-dev
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>subscribe page. It's pretty self explanatory.
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>If you're finding the same issues on another machine as well, then
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>we'll need to dive a little deeper. But for now, give that a try.
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>Also, just for reference, there is a searchable help system under the
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>Help menu if you have questions about creating data packages.
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>Best,
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>Chris
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