[kepler-dev] [seek-exec] semantics
Deana Pennington
dpennington at lternet.edu
Thu Jan 19 11:42:05 PST 2006
Maybe we could just go with iGrid and explain that this is a generic
term to represent any specific information grid that might be available
in the future..
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>>>>What would Steve Jobs call it?
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>>iGrid
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>>Deana Pennington wrote:
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>>>If I could think like Steve Jobs I wouldn't be on this project :-)
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>>>Beach, James H wrote:
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>>>>What would Steve Jobs call it?
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>>>>James H. Beach
>>>>Biodiversity Research Center
>>>>University of Kansas
>>>>1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>>>>Lawrence, KS 66045, USA
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>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
>>>>[mailto:seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Deana
>>>>Pennington
>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:16 PM
>>>>To: kepler list
>>>>Cc: seek-exec
>>>>Subject: Re: [seek-exec] [kepler-dev] semantics
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>>>>Gee, could you think of something a little more difficult to say???
>>>>Think "intuitive acronym".
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>>>>Mladen Vouk wrote:
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>>>>>Distributed authentication-capable distributed computing resources?
>>>>>mav
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>>>>>Deana Pennington wrote:
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>>>>>>Vision:
>>>>>>-distributed resources
>>>>>>-distributed scientists
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>>>>>>obviously, Kepler could be used for applications outside of
>>>>>>science, but since we're all focused on SCIENTIFIC workflows is
>>>>>>seems reasonable to me to focus on scientific resources. It's not
>>>>>>limited to eco/environmental kinds of applications, as clearly
>>>>>>demonstrated by
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>>>>>>a domain specific actor library that includes genetics and chemistry.
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>>>>>>I need a word to put in the following sentence:
>>>>>>"And because Kepler is based on state of the art grid technologies
>>>>>>(see Appendices, Section 5.2), data and analytical processes from
>>>>>>other scientists can be exposed and utilized within Kepler. This
>>>>>>is done via the XXXGrid, which is basically a set of
>>>>>>geographically distributed data repositories, computing resources,
>>>>>>and (eventually)
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>>>>workflow libraries."
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>>>>>>I can substitute "distributed computing technologies" for grid in
>>>>>>the first line, but Kepler will be accessing a specific set of
>>>>>>distributed
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>>>>>>resources (those that the authentication system can handle) and I
>>>>>>need
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>>>>>>a term for that set of resources.
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>>>>>>My [incomplete] ontology of the distributed resources, where some
>>>>>>other term can be substituted for grid if we can find a better
>>>>>>term, and there already exist many other specific grids that could be
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>>>>inserted into this:
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>>>>>>ScienceGrid
>>>>>> BiosphereGrid
>>>>>> EcoGrid
>>>>>> GeoGrid
>>>>>> OceanGrid
>>>>>> HydroGrid
>>>>>> AtmGrid
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> BiologicGrid
>>>>>> BiochemGrid
>>>>>> GenGrid
>>>>>> MolecularBioGrid
>>>>>> XXXScience
>>>>>> PhysicsGrid
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>>>>>>Distributed resources can be allocated at different scales in the
>>>>>>hierarchy. EcoGrid would only apply to those resources that are
>>>>>>domain specific to ecology. BiosphereGrid would include the
>>>>>>resources
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>>>>>>across disciplines within that set (e.g. all of the environmental
>>>>>>observatory data taken together). ScienceGrid would include all
>>>>>>the generic resources, like some data mining algorithm that could
>>>>>>be used by any of the domains. What I want is a term for
>>>>>>ScienceGrid at the top of the hierarchy.
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>>>>>>Hopefully this helps define the vision, or at least will generate
>>>>>>additional discussion.
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>>>>>>Deana
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>>>>>>Mladen Vouk wrote:
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>>>>>>>Good point. What is the vision?
>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>Mladen
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>>>>>>>Shawn Bowers wrote:
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>>>>>>>>I think that a problem here is that there isn't really a shared
>>>>>>>>vision for what this thing you're trying to name will actually
>>>>>>>>be when it grows up ...
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>>>>>>>>-shawn
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>>>>>>>>Deana Pennington wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>I'm working on the Getting Started with Kepler document that
>>>>>>>>>Sam and Laura started. I'm trying to make it more generic,
>>>>>>>>>less specific to ecology since other sciences are now heavily
>>>>>>>>>represented as well. I think it's time to settle on a generic
>>>>>>>>>term
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>>>>>>>>>for the Grid being accessed
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>>>>>>>>>from within Kepler, subsets of which can always use more
>>>>>>>>specific
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>>>>>>>>>terms
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>>>>>>>>>(e.g. EcoGrid). My suggestion would be to go with something
>>>>>>>>>simple
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>>>>>>>>>like Science Grid, or SciGrid. Thoughts? Are there other
>>>>>>>>>terms that we need to resolve before the documentation effort
>>>>>>>>>gets going
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>>>>in full force?
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>>>>>>>>>Deana
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>>>>Deana D. Pennington, PhD
>>>>Long-term Ecological Research Network Office
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>>>>UNM Biology Department
>>>>MSC03 2020
>>>>1 University of New Mexico
>>>>Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
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Long-term Ecological Research Network Office
UNM Biology Department
MSC03 2020
1 University of New Mexico
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