[kepler-dev] [seek-exec] semantics
Deana Pennington
dpennington at lternet.edu
Thu Jan 19 11:38:07 PST 2006
So let's see, that would get abbreviated to the Kepler KISS...
Arcot Rajasekar wrote:
>I haven't had so many emails in so few seconds :-)
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>
>How about Kepler Information System
>or better yet
>Kepler Information System for Scientists.
>
>I am tempted to say Kepler Resource Broker :-)
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> raja
>
>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, William Michener wrote:
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>>I-data
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>>William K. Michener
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>>American Institute of Biological Sciences
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>>Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
>>[mailto:seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Beach, James H
>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:23 PM
>>To: Deana Pennington; kepler list
>>Cc: seek-exec
>>Subject: Re: [seek-exec] [kepler-dev] semantics
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>>What would Steve Jobs call it?
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>>_____________________________
>>James H. Beach
>>Biodiversity Research Center
>>University of Kansas
>>1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>>Lawrence, KS 66045, USA
>>T 785 864-4645, F 785 864-5335
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>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
>>[mailto:seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Deana
>>Pennington
>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:16 PM
>>To: kepler list
>>Cc: seek-exec
>>Subject: Re: [seek-exec] [kepler-dev] semantics
>>
>>Gee, could you think of something a little more difficult to say???
>>Think "intuitive acronym".
>>
>>Mladen Vouk wrote:
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>>>Distributed authentication-capable distributed computing resources?
>>>mav
>>>
>>>Deana Pennington wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>>>Vision:
>>>>-distributed resources
>>>>-distributed scientists
>>>>
>>>>obviously, Kepler could be used for applications outside of science,
>>>>but since we're all focused on SCIENTIFIC workflows is seems
>>>>reasonable to me to focus on scientific resources. It's not limited
>>>>to eco/environmental kinds of applications, as clearly demonstrated by
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>a domain specific actor library that includes genetics and chemistry.
>>>>
>>>>I need a word to put in the following sentence:
>>>>"And because Kepler is based on state of the art grid technologies
>>>>(see Appendices, Section 5.2), data and analytical processes from
>>>>other scientists can be exposed and utilized within Kepler. This is
>>>>done via the XXXGrid, which is basically a set of geographically
>>>>distributed data repositories, computing resources, and (eventually)
>>>>
>>>>
>>workflow libraries."
>>
>>
>>>>I can substitute "distributed computing technologies" for grid in the
>>>>first line, but Kepler will be accessing a specific set of distributed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>resources (those that the authentication system can handle) and I need
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>a term for that set of resources.
>>>>
>>>>My [incomplete] ontology of the distributed resources, where some
>>>>other term can be substituted for grid if we can find a better term,
>>>>and there already exist many other specific grids that could be
>>>>
>>>>
>>inserted into this:
>>
>>
>>>>ScienceGrid
>>>> BiosphereGrid
>>>> EcoGrid
>>>> GeoGrid
>>>> OceanGrid
>>>> HydroGrid
>>>> AtmGrid
>>>> others
>>>> BiologicGrid
>>>> BiochemGrid
>>>> GenGrid
>>>> MolecularBioGrid
>>>> XXXScience
>>>> PhysicsGrid
>>>>
>>>>Distributed resources can be allocated at different scales in the
>>>>hierarchy. EcoGrid would only apply to those resources that are
>>>>domain specific to ecology. BiosphereGrid would include the resources
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>across disciplines within that set (e.g. all of the environmental
>>>>observatory data taken together). ScienceGrid would include all the
>>>>generic resources, like some data mining algorithm that could be used
>>>>by any of the domains. What I want is a term for ScienceGrid at the
>>>>top of the hierarchy.
>>>>
>>>>Hopefully this helps define the vision, or at least will generate
>>>>additional discussion.
>>>>
>>>>Deana
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mladen Vouk wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Good point. What is the vision?
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>Mladen
>>>>>
>>>>>Shawn Bowers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think that a problem here is that there isn't really a shared
>>>>>>vision for what this thing you're trying to name will actually be
>>>>>>when it grows up ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-shawn
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Deana Pennington wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm working on the Getting Started with Kepler document that Sam
>>>>>>>and Laura started. I'm trying to make it more generic, less
>>>>>>>specific to ecology since other sciences are now heavily
>>>>>>>represented as well. I think it's time to settle on a generic term
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>for the Grid being accessed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>from within Kepler, subsets of which can always use more specific
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>terms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(e.g. EcoGrid). My suggestion would be to go with something simple
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>like Science Grid, or SciGrid. Thoughts? Are there other terms
>>>>>>>that we need to resolve before the documentation effort gets going
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>in full force?
>>
>>
>>>>>>>Deana
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>Deana D. Pennington, PhD
>>Long-term Ecological Research Network Office
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>>Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
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