[kepler-dev] [seek-exec] semantics

Thu Jan 19 11:36:14 PST 2006

I haven't had so many emails in so few seconds :-)

How about Kepler Information System
or better yet
Kepler Information System for Scientists.

I am tempted to say Kepler Resource Broker :-)

	raja

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, William Michener wrote:

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
> [mailto:seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Beach, James H
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:23 PM
> To: Deana Pennington; kepler list
> Cc: seek-exec
> Subject: Re: [seek-exec] [kepler-dev] semantics
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>
> What would Steve Jobs call it?
>
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> James H. Beach
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
> [mailto:seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Deana
> Pennington
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:16 PM
> To: kepler list
> Cc: seek-exec
> Subject: Re: [seek-exec] [kepler-dev] semantics
>
> Gee, could you think of something a little more difficult to say???
> Think "intuitive acronym".
>
> Mladen Vouk wrote:
>
> > Distributed authentication-capable distributed computing resources?
> > mav
> >
> > Deana Pennington wrote:
> >
> >>Vision:
> >>-distributed resources
> >>-distributed scientists
> >>
> >>obviously, Kepler could be used for applications outside of science,
> >>but since we're all focused on SCIENTIFIC workflows is seems
> >>reasonable to me to focus on scientific resources.  It's not limited
> >>to eco/environmental kinds of applications, as clearly demonstrated by
>
> >>a domain specific actor library that includes genetics and chemistry.
> >>
> >>I need a word to put in the following sentence:
> >>"And because Kepler is based on state of the art grid technologies
> >>(see Appendices, Section 5.2), data and analytical processes from
> >>other scientists can be exposed and utilized within Kepler.  This is
> >>done via the XXXGrid, which is basically a set of geographically
> >>distributed data repositories, computing resources, and (eventually)
> workflow libraries."
> >>
> >>I can substitute "distributed computing technologies" for grid in the
> >>first line, but Kepler will be accessing a specific set of distributed
>
> >>resources (those that the authentication system can handle) and I need
>
> >>a term for that set of resources.
> >>
> >>My [incomplete] ontology of the distributed resources, where some
> >>other term can be substituted for grid if we can find a better term,
> >>and there already exist many other specific grids that could be
> inserted into this:
> >>
> >>ScienceGrid
> >>   BiosphereGrid
> >>      EcoGrid
> >>      GeoGrid
> >>      OceanGrid
> >>      HydroGrid
> >>      AtmGrid
> >>      others
> >>   BiologicGrid
> >>      BiochemGrid
> >>      GenGrid
> >>      MolecularBioGrid
> >>   XXXScience
> >>      PhysicsGrid
> >>
> >>Distributed resources can be allocated at different scales in the
> >>hierarchy.  EcoGrid would only apply to those resources that are
> >>domain specific to ecology.  BiosphereGrid would include the resources
>
> >>across disciplines within that set (e.g. all of the environmental
> >>observatory data taken together).  ScienceGrid would include all the
> >>generic resources, like some data mining algorithm that could be used
> >>by any of the domains.  What I want is a term for ScienceGrid at the
> >>top of the hierarchy.
> >>
> >>Hopefully this helps define the vision, or at least will generate
> >>additional discussion.
> >>
> >>Deana
> >>
> >>
> >>Mladen Vouk wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Good point. What is the vision?
> >>>Thanks
> >>>Mladen
> >>>
> >>>Shawn Bowers wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I think that a problem here is that there isn't really a shared
> >>>>vision for what this thing you're trying to name will actually be
> >>>>when it grows up ...
> >>>>
> >>>>-shawn
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Deana Pennington wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I'm working on the Getting Started with Kepler document that Sam
> >>>>>and Laura started.  I'm trying to make it more generic, less
> >>>>>specific to ecology since other sciences are now heavily
> >>>>>represented as well.  I think it's time to settle on a generic term
>
> >>>>>for the Grid being accessed
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>from within Kepler, subsets of which can always use more specific
> >>>>>terms
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>(e.g. EcoGrid).  My suggestion would be to go with something simple
>
> >>>>>like Science Grid, or SciGrid.  Thoughts?  Are there other terms
> >>>>>that we need to resolve before the documentation effort gets going
> in full force?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Deana
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
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