[kepler-dev] Re: illustrator svg settings

[Matt Jones]

Thanks, Laura.  This composite looks great.  The icons are all solid
colors and simple lines, so they should be able to be represented in the
simplified SVG that ptolemy supports.  Getting them into that format
might not be easy, however.  Illustrator, for example, makes extensive
use of SVG 'path' elements and group ('g') elements when writing out
SVG, which ptolemy doesn't support.  But we can get the developers to
get that stuff fixed, probably at a minimum creating a conversion
script.  It looks to me like we should be able to use the same SVG for
the canvas and the tree because they should scale ok.  I'm moving this
conversation onto the list so that the other Kepler developers are aware
of the issues.

Matt

Laura L. Downey wrote:
> Okay, here's one comp that shows the basic color scheme with a few actors
> (this is just a made up workflow).  There are still some changes to be made
> but this will give the general idea.
> 
> Laura L. Downey
> Senior Usability Engineer
> LTER Network Office
> Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
> 1 University of New Mexico
> Albuquerque, NM  87131-0001
> 505.277.3157 phone
> 505.277-2541 fax
> ldowney at lternet.edu
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Jones [mailto:jones at nceas.ucsb.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 12:21 PM
> To: Laura L. Downey
> Subject: Re: illustrator svg settings
> 
> composites would be fine.  Like i said before i'd like to glance at what 
> you have anyways.
> 
> Matt
> 
> Laura L. Downey wrote:
> 
>>Oops... guess I'm trying to read too fast these days.  You said gifs are
>>fine but again I only have composite images -- not any individual stuff.
>>I've just emailed the graphic designer though to get some.
>>
>>Laura L. Downey
>>Senior Usability Engineer
>>LTER Network Office
>>Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
>>1 University of New Mexico
>>Albuquerque, NM  87131-0001
>>505.277.3157 phone
>>505.277-2541 fax
>>ldowney at lternet.edu
>> 
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Matt Jones [mailto:jones at nceas.ucsb.edu] 
>>Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:56 AM
>>To: Laura L. Downey
>>Subject: Re: illustrator svg settings
>>
>>Laura,
>>
>>Could you send me some example images (gif is fine).  I should be able 
>>to get a sense of whether they will work using the SVG subset that 
>>ptolemy supports based on looking at some representative icons.  If they 
>>won't work that way, then I'll think about how to handle this.  Thanks,
>>
>>Matt
>>
>>Laura L. Downey wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thanks.  I'll pass these along to the graphic designer.
>>>
>>>As I just said on IRC, I'm a bit worked that the few primitives supported
>>>won't let use some of the symbology we've developed even though it is
>>
>>really
>>
>>
>>>basic.  I don't like complexity in visual language but some detail is
>>>necessary and bit more than just fundamental shapes etc.  But I'll guess
>>>I'll find out when I get the final SVGs and try to display them etc.
>>>
>>>Laura L. Downey
>>>Senior Usability Engineer
>>>LTER Network Office
>>>Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
>>>1 University of New Mexico
>>>Albuquerque, NM  87131-0001
>>>505.277.3157 phone
>>>505.277-2541 fax
>>>ldowney at lternet.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Matt Jones [mailto:jones at nceas.ucsb.edu] 
>>>Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:45 AM
>>>To: ldowney at lternet.edu
>>>Subject: illustrator svg settings
>>>
>>>Laura,
>>>
>>>I think these settings will get you a valid svg file.  You can test it 
>>>by opening it in Batik Squiggle or another SVG app.   You may need to 
>>>tweak the settings even further, but i'm not sure.  Be sure to test.  I 
>>>think there are also some W3C validation services.
>>>
>>>A valid SVG file isn't enough though.  We need to be sure to only use 
>>>the SVG features that ptolemy supports.  For example, I don't think 
>>>ptolemy supports gradients.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>>
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Matt Jones                                     jones at nceas.ucsb.edu
http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu/    Fax: 425-920-2439    Ph: 907-789-0496
National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis (NCEAS)
University of California Santa Barbara
Interested in ecological informatics? http://www.ecoinformatics.org
-------------------------------------------------------------------