[kepler-dev] Kepler alpha7
Dan Higgins
higgins at nceas.ucsb.edu
Thu Jul 14 09:31:15 PDT 2005
Christopher et al,
I also get the PT II 5 toolbar on all my tests (unless I mistakenly
use the Kepler alpha1 release rather than the alpha7).
And the utilities are not immediately visible for me.
I don't think the PTII environmemt variable has any effect in kepler
because all of the PTII code is actually inside the kepler.jar file
which is on the classpath. (And removing PTII had no effect on my machine).
As far as updating libexpat.dll --- This isn't really a direct
requirement for Kepler, but is needed by the GARP code which is a
C++(jni) code called by Kepler in several of our species distribution
workflows. Simply telling Java where to look doen't work since it is not
java but the C++ code that is looking for the dll. It's important to us
that these workflows work, but perhaps I need a better way of installing
when we get past alpha versions.
Dan
Christopher Brooks wrote:
>Edward wrote:
>
>
>
>>I downloaded the Kepler release as a .exe file, and put it in
>>c:/kepler. When I run the kepler executable, I get toolbar icons
>>from Ptolemy II version 3.0.2. Any idea why?
>>
>>
>
>I downloaded the Kepler installer yesterday when I was on campus and
>had a fast net connection. I get the Ptolemy II 5.0-beta tool bar.
>
>Just to be clear:
>In Ptolemy II 3.0, we have Z's for the zoom butons.
>In Ptolemy II 5.0, we have magnifying glasses.
>
>You wrote:
>
>
>>The toolbar icons are from version 3.0 and the utilities and actor
>>libraries are from version 3.0
>>
>>
>
>For me, under Kepler, the utilities are not immediately visible.
>For example, I had to go to Actors -> Constants -> Documentation
>to see the Annotation.
>
>Are you getting the old configuration where Utilities are immediately
>visible when you start up? Do you see the Quick Search Window on
>the left?
>
>
>I would try the following:
>1) Check your environment settings and unset PTII, reboot and restart
>Kepler
>
>2) Send us a screenshot. Probably a gif would be smaller than a
>bmp. On the HP, do Alt-Fn-PrtScr to copy the image and then paste
>it in to Paint, save as a gif and send it out.
>
>BTW - One note is that when I installed Kepler it wanted to update
>c:/Windows/system32/libexpat.dll. Why is this? Is there any other way
>so as to avoid updating files in the Windows directory?
>
>_Christopher
>
>
>Dan wrote:
>
>
>> Your toolbar icons problem is very strange! The toolbar on my
>>machine (and several others here) is identical to the one displayed by
>>PTII 5.0-beta. And, as far as I can determine no one working on Kepler
>>has done anything with the toolbar! I'll keep looking to see if I can
>>figure out what is going on.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Dan
>>
>>------
>>
>>Edward A. Lee wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The toolbar icons are from version 3.0 and the utilities and actor
>>>libraries
>>>are from version 3.0... If the configuration is a copy of the standard
>>>one, that would explain the libraries, but it would not explain the
>>>toolbar
>>>icons...
>>>
>>>Edward
>>>
>>>At 01:57 PM 7/11/2005 -0700, Dan Higgins wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Edward,
>>>> Thanks for looking at the release and the comments!
>>>>
>>>> Why do you think we are using version 3.0 of Ptolemy II? (If we
>>>>are, then I made a major mistake!) The build was (supposedly) made
>>>>using the head of the PTII CVS as of 10AM on 9 July. All the PTII
>>>>code is the kepler.jar file. If you click on the 'Ptolemy
>>>>Introduction' link in the intro.htm screen, we are linking to a
>>>>screen that says "Ptolemy II Version 5.1-devel".
>>>> Maybe we mislead you by not exposing all the latest models and
>>>>directors in the 'Workflow Component' tree on the left? It was
>>>>decided to only exposed four directors (CT, SDF, PN, and DE) so as to
>>>>minimize confusion for non-CS Kepler users. I think the code for most
>>>>of the actors in PTII 5.1 is included so most Ptolemy demos should
>>>>work (if the user has Java3D installed; I didn't include it in the
>>>>distribution).
>>>>
>>>> The first demo failure may have been due to you not being connect
>>>>to the Internet when running? [I never checked that case and it seems
>>>>to run OK on any machines that are connected.]
>>>>
>>>> I'll look into the other comments that you made and see if I can
>>>>fix things. Thanks again.
>>>>
>>>>Dan Higgins
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Edward A. Lee wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>At 09:44 AM 7/11/2005 -0700, Dan Higgins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>> There are preliminary versions of the Kepler alpha7 installers in
>>>>>>the http://kepler-project.org/dist/ direcory. However, the web site
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>not been updated with links to these new versions. I propose not to
>>>>>>create these new link for a few days to let you all check workflows of
>>>>>>particular interest. (I know that some do not work. :-( ) Let me know
>>>>>>if you find problems or need the links added right away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I just tried it out, and looks pretty good...
>>>>>Here are some immediate reactions:
>>>>>
>>>>>- This release appears to be based on version 3.0 of Ptolemy II.
>>>>> This is two major releases behind!
>>>>> 5.0 has been released in beta, and will be finalized shortly...
>>>>> There are quite a few features of 4.0 and 5.0 that would be quite
>>>>> useful to this community, such as actor-oriented classes, the
>>>>> dynamic dataflow (DDF) director, much better 3-D rendering actors
>>>>> in the GR domain, lifecycle actors like ModelReference, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>- Using the Windows installer, with all the defaults chosen, kepler
>>>>> does not get put in the Start menu... Perhaps it should be by
>>>>>default?
>>>>>
>>>>>- The first demo (EML 2) fails with:
>>>>> ptolemy.kernel.util.IllegalActionException: Error parsing the eml
>>>>>package: Exception in DataTypeResolver.
>>>>>
>>>>>- The demos are not well sized and placed for a standard laptop screen.
>>>>> Displays pop up off screen, and the workflows spill over to the
>>>>>right.
>>>>> Also, some of them come up panned so that the whole demo is not
>>>>>visible.
>>>>>
>>>>>- The third demo (GEON Map Workflow) gives:
>>>>>java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>> at org.sdm.spa.WebService.fire(WebService.java:466)
>>>>> at ptolemy.actor.AtomicActor.iterate(AtomicActor.java:266)
>>>>> ...
>>>>> This is probably because I was not on the net when I ran it,
>>>>> but it seems there should be a friendlier error message...
>>>>>
>>>>>- Many of the plots are unlabeled (no title, no legend).
>>>>>
>>>>>- Some of the demos have no annotations.
>>>>>
>>>>>- The backprop model gives:
>>>>>java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no backprop in java.library.path
>>>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1517)
>>>>> at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Runtime.java:788)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Edward
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>------------
>>>>>Edward A. Lee
>>>>>Professor, Chair of the EE Division, Associate Chair of EECS
>>>>>231 Cory Hall, UC Berkeley, Berkeley, CA 94720
>>>>>phone: 510-642-0253 or 510-642-0455, fax: 510-642-2845
>>>>>eal at eecs.Berkeley.EDU, http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/~eal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>*******************************************************************
>>>>Dan Higgins higgins at nceas.ucsb.edu
>>>>http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu/ Ph: 805-893-5127
>>>>National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis (NCEAS) Marine
>>>>Science Building - Room 3405
>>>>Santa Barbara, CA 93195
>>>>*******************************************************************
>>>>
>>>>
>>>------------
>>>Edward A. Lee
>>>Professor, Chair of the EE Division, Associate Chair of EECS
>>>231 Cory Hall, UC Berkeley, Berkeley, CA 94720
>>>phone: 510-642-0253 or 510-642-0455, fax: 510-642-2845
>>>eal at eecs.Berkeley.EDU, http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/~eal
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
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>>http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu/ Ph: 805-893-5127
>>National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis (NCEAS)
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>>Santa Barbara, CA 93195
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