request eml dev status for saurab sood and gaurav gupta

[Peter McCartney]

Im going to vote whatever, because I think some credible arguments have been
proposed both ways. For those that we would like to encourage submission to
a project while still keeping the number of those with write access down to
a fairly tight group that are engaged in the project and talk to each other
before making commits, I would suggest more open write access to bugzilla as
an appropriate vehicle in addition to the trustee approach that might be
appropriate for temporary student worker cases.


Peter McCartney (peter.mccartney at asu.edu)
Center for Environmental-Studies
Arizona State University
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Higgins [mailto:higgins at nceas.ucsb.edu] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:12 AM
To: David Blankman
Cc: Christopher Jones; Eml-Dev (E-mail); Saurabh Sood; Gaurav Gupta
Subject: Re: request eml dev status for saurab sood and gaurav gupta


Hi All,

    I have been somewhat bothered by this whole idea of getting approval 
before someone not currently 'part of the club' can submit anything 
related to EML to CVS. While letting anyone change the 'official EML 
standard' documents in CVS makes no sense (a community vote here is 
reasonable), it seems to me thtat there should be an area in the EML CVS 
module where any EML related information, tools, etc, could easily be 
submitted. Such submissions should be encouraged, not made more 
difficult by requiring an election (or requiring the time of someone who 
does have access)!

Dan Higgins

-----

David Blankman wrote:

> Chris,
>
> First, I think that your reason for disapproving Saurabh and Gaurav
> makes sense. I have no problem with doing the commits to cvs myself.
>
> Second, Matt had requested that I put the code for the conversion
> tools in the eml branch of cvs.
>
> Third, thanks for joining us at the LTER EML Implementation workshop.
>
> David
>
>
>
> Christopher Jones wrote:
>
>>David,
>>
>>I would have to disapprove on this one.  I feel like there is a 
>>difference between having CVS write access, and being committed to the 
>>development of the EML spec and all that it entails.  There are a 
>>number of people at NCEAS, ASU CES, PISCO, etc. that contribute, but 
>>that commit through Chad, myself, and others.  I realize this is less 
>>convenient, but the general protocol of voting for inclusion does not 
>>just mean that they would have CVS commit access, but that they would 
>>also be voting here-on-out on EML issues that affect the entire 
>>community. For these reasons, the process of *demonstrating* 
>>commitment (list participation, code contributions, discussion, etc 
>>...) has been put into place in order to provide a means of 
>>evaluation, and then a vote.
>>
>>Also, EML is a content standard for the entire ecological community, 
>>not just the LTER community.  I don't understand why code would be 
>>commited to the EML repository that is specific to the data models of 
>>individual LTER sites.  Perhaps this code belongs in another module 
>>related to KNB products. I'm not sure about that.
>>
>>Anyway, with all respect to Saurabh and Gaurav, I certainly don't want 
>>anytone to think that my opinion is a reflection on them whatsoever.  
>>It is merely a commentary on the process of EML voting and the like.
>>
>>All, please let me know if I'm interpreting the process incorrectly, 
>>and I would be glad to reconsider.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>chris
>>
>>On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, David Blankman wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Gaurav Gupta and Saurab Sood are student programmers working for me 
>>>at the LTER Network Office. They are concentrating on writing 
>>>applications to convert legacy metadata to eml, including both 
>>>dataset and remote sensing metadata. They are making a major 
>>>contribution to getting eml from LTER sites.
>>>
>>>I would like them to be able to do cvs commits. My understanding is 
>>>that this requires approval by the eml-dev group. Remember, the 
>>>possible votes you can cast are:
>>>approve     -- support the membership fully
>>>whatever    -- don't know, or don't care enough to approve or object
>>>disapprove  -- object -- this veto's the vote
>>>
>>>To pass, at least 2/3 of the members must vote (8) and 2/3 of those 
>>>must be approve votes with no disapprove votes cast.
>>>
>>>Gaurav Gupta
>>>Approve:  David Blankman
>>>
>>>
>>>Saurabh Sood
>>>Approve:  David Blankman
>>>
>>>--
>>>David E. Blankman
>>>Database Integration Developer
>>>Long Term Ecological Research Network Office
>>>University of New Mexico
>>>801 University, SE #104
>>>Albuquerque, NM 87106
>>>(505) 272-7346 / (505) 272-7080 FAX
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>
>--
>David E. Blankman
>Database Integration Developer
>Long Term Ecological Research Network Office
>University of New Mexico
>801 University, SE #104
>Albuquerque, NM 87106
>(505) 272-7346 / (505) 272-7080 FAX
>  
>


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