[kepler-users] Missing "save" options

Christopher Brooks cxh at eecs.berkeley.edu
Tue Aug 17 07:49:09 PDT 2010 

Hi Derik,
Having a way to add the menu items back would help.

I read Kepler models into Ptolemy to see if the problem is
with Kepler or Ptolemy.

I think that it is a fairly common mistake in tools to have
a file format that is somewhat opaque.  That's the beauty of
xml, it make it easy to user other tools on a file.
There should be a question in the FAQ about how to break up
a KAR file to get at the components and there should be some
simple tools that will extract the component files from the
KAR file.  I'm hoping that KAR files are basically jar files,
right?

_Christopher


On 8/16/10 7:07 PM, Derik Barseghian wrote:
> Hey Christopher,
>
> How about if I add a boolean configuration property to uiMenuMappings
> that when set will add these menu items back?
>
> Out of curiosity, why are you using Vergil and not Kepler for testing
> Kepler workflows?
>
> Derik
>
> On Aug 16, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Christopher Brooks wrote:
>
>> If there is no "Save", then I cannot save files as xml files
>> and test them in Vergil.
>>
>> This means that I won't be able to do much testing, debugging
>> and support for Kepler.
>>
>> I think we need Save and Save As, or instructions on how to add
>> them back.
>>
>> _Christopher
>>
>> On 8/16/10 10:49 AM, Derik Barseghian wrote:
>>> Hi Jonathan, Chris, and Christopher,
>>>
>>> Removing the options to save just the workflow in the Kepler GUI was
>>> intentional. You may still open previously saved singular workflow xml
>>> files, but the only Save option now presented by the GUI is Save
>>> Archive. Save Archive saves the workflow and any other relevant
>>> artifacts into a KAR file. As you probably know, a KAR is simply a jar.
>>> Also, among other things, the KAR's manifest maintains a list of module
>>> dependencies -- i.e. the set of modules the user is currently running
>>> when they saved the KAR. This allows Kepler to prompt other users, when
>>> they attempt to open this KAR, to download any missing modules necessary
>>> to deal with the contents of this KAR.
>>>
>>> Basically the thinking was that removing these Save options simplifies
>>> our GUI a bit (and in the future we could further simplify by folding
>>> all Open options into one menu item), but more importantly, does not
>>> leave users struggling to share workflows -- before this change it was
>>> possible to save a workflow as xml using one set of modules, but when
>>> attempting to open it within another set of modules the user would get a
>>> set of error messages about missing classes (because the module
>>> dependency information is lost). We also thought that for developers
>>> wanting to deal solely with workflow xml files, the burden of first
>>> unjarring a kar to get at the workflow(s) wouldn't be too great.
>>>
>>> Sorry for the surprise, please let us know if you feel this change poses
>>> a significant obstacle, or is significantly detrimental to existing
>>> systems, and we can reevaluate as necessary.
>>>
>>> Further discussion on this topic can be found here:
>>> http://mercury.nceas.ucsb.edu/kepler/pipermail/kepler-dev/2010-August/018716.html
>>>
>>>
>>> http://bugzilla.ecoinformatics.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5099
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Derik
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Christopher Brooks wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can reproduce this.
>>>>
>>>> The problem was not happening, then I did an "ant update", which
>>>> updated
>>>> the files below, then the problem started.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect
>>>> > [update-modules] U
>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui/resources/configurations/configuration.xml
>>>> > [update-modules] U
>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui/resources/configurations/uiMenuMappings_en_US.xml
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Below is the log
>>>>
>>>> _Christopher
>>>>
>>>>> bash-3.2$ ant update
>>>>> Buildfile: build.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> update:
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating kepler...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/kepler
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating outreach...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/outreach
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating r...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/r
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating loader...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/loader
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating actors...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/actors
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/actors/tests/src/org/ecoinformatics/seek/ecogrid/EML2MetadataSpecificationTest.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/actors/src/org/ecoinformatics/seek/datasource/darwincore/DarwinCoreDataSource.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/actors/src/org/ecoinformatics/seek/datasource/eml/eml2/EML2MetadataSpecification.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] Updated to revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating directors...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/directors
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating opendap...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/opendap
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating dataturbine...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/dataturbine
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating ecogrid...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/ecogrid
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/ecogrid/tests/src/org/ecoinformatics/seek/ecogrid/quicksearch/SearchQueryGeneratorTest.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/ecogrid/src/org/kepler/objectmanager/repository/EcogridRepository.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/ecogrid/src/org/kepler/objectmanager/repository/EcogridRepositoryLibrarySearcher.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] Updated to revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating authentication-gui...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/authentication-gui
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating module-manager-gui...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/module-manager-gui
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/module-manager-gui/src/org/kepler/modulemanager/gui/patch/PatchChecker.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/module-manager-gui/src/org/kepler/modulemanager/gui/ModuleManagerPane.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/module-manager-gui/src/org/kepler/modulemanager/gui/ModulesList.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/module-manager-gui/src/org/kepler/modulemanager/gui/SuitesList.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/module-manager-gui/src/org/kepler/modulemanager/gui/AvailableModulesPanel.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] Updated to revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating gui...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui
>>>>> [update-modules] D /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui/src/org/kepler/kar
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui/src/org/kepler/gui/kar/ExportArchiveAction.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui/src/org/kepler/gui/kar/OpenArchiveAction.java
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui/src/org/kepler/gui/kar/DownloadKARFileAction.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui/src/org/kepler/gui/kar/ImportModuleDependenciesAction.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] A
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui/src/org/kepler/gui/kar/KARPreferencesTab.java
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui/src/org/kepler/gui/kar/ExportActorArchiveAction.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui/src/org/kepler/module/gui/Initialize.java
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui/resources/configurations/configuration.xml
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/gui/resources/configurations/uiMenuMappings_en_US.xml
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] Updated to revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating authentication...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/authentication
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating repository...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/repository
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/repository/lib/jar/ecogrid_client_lib/org.ecoinformatics.ecogrid.QueryService-stub.jar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/repository/lib/jar/ecogrid_client_lib/org.ecoinformatics.ecogrid.AuthenticatedQueryService-stub.jar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/repository/lib/jar/ecogrid_client_lib/org.ecoinformatics.ecogrid.PutService-stub.jar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/repository/lib/jar/ecogrid_client_lib/org.ecoinformatics.ecogrid.AuthenticationService-stub.jar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/repository/lib/jar/ecogrid_client_lib/org.ecoinformatics.ecogrid.IdentifierService-stub.jar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/repository/src/org/kepler/objectmanager/repository/RepositoryManager.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/repository/resources/configurations/configuration.xml
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] Updated to revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating job...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/job
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating io...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/io
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating ssh...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/ssh
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating data-handling...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/data-handling
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating sms...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/sms
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating component-library...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/component-library
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating util...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/util
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating event-state...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/event-state
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating core...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/tests/src/org/kepler/kar/SaveKARTest.java
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/kar/KAREntry.java
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/kar/KARManifest.java
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/kar/KARFile.java
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/kar/karxml/KarXmlGenerator.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/kar/karxml/KarXml.java
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/kar/handlers/ActorMetadataKAREntryHandler.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/kar/handlers/JARKAREntryHandler.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/kar/ModuleDependencyUtil.java
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/kar/KARBuilder.java
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/kar/SaveKAR.java
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/util/sql/Schema.java
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/util/sql/Oracle.java
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/util/sql/HSQL.java
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/util/sql/Table.java
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/src/org/kepler/util/sql/Column.java
>>>>> [update-modules] D /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/resources/KARFile.xsd
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/resources/configurations/configuration.xml
>>>>> [update-modules] A /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/resources/kar-schema
>>>>> [update-modules] A
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/resources/kar-schema/kar-2.0.0
>>>>> [update-modules] A
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/resources/kar-schema/kar-2.0.0/KARFile.xsd
>>>>> [update-modules] A
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/resources/kar-schema/kar-2.1.0
>>>>> [update-modules] A
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/core/resources/kar-schema/kar-2.1.0/KARFile.xsd
>>>>> [update-modules] Updated to revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating common...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/common
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/common/resources/configurations/configuration.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] Updated to revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating module-manager...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/module-manager
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/module-manager/src/org/kepler/modulemanager/ModuleDownloader.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] Updated to revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating configuration-manager...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/configuration-manager
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/configuration-manager/src/org/kepler/configuration/ConfigurationProperty.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] Updated to revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating kepler-tasks...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/kepler-tasks
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating ptolemy...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/ptolemy
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Using the stable version of ptolemy. Use 'ant
>>>>> update-ptolemy -Drev=head' to work from the head.
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r 57958 update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/ptolemy/src
>>>>> [update-modules] At revision 57958.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>> [update-modules] Updating build-area...
>>>>> [update-modules] svn -r head update --accept postpone
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/build-area
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/build-area/src/org/kepler/util/DotKeplerManager.java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] U
>>>>> /Users/cxh/src/kepler/build-area/resources/eclipse/PtolemyClasspathStart
>>>>>
>>>>> [update-modules] Updated to revision 25379.
>>>>> [update-modules]
>>>>>
>>>>> BUILD SUCCESSFUL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/16/10 7:38 AM, Jonathan Boright wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I updated Kepler this morning and now the "save" and "save as" buttons
>>>>> are missing from the File menu... I'm sure that others have noticed
>>>>> this
>>>>> by now, but just in case, I thought I'd send out a note...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon Boright
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Jonathan Boright
>>>>> Research Scientist
>>>>> ISciences, LLC
>>>>> 61 Main Street, Suite 200
>>>>> Burlington, VT 05401
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> Christopher Brooks, PMP University of California
>>>> CHESS Executive Director US Mail: 337 Cory Hall
>>>> Programmer/Analyst CHESS/Ptolemy/Trust Berkeley, CA 94720-1774
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>>>
>>
>> --
>> Christopher Brooks, PMP University of California
>> CHESS Executive Director US Mail: 337 Cory Hall
>> Programmer/Analyst CHESS/Ptolemy/Trust Berkeley, CA 94720-1774
>> ph: 510.643.9841 fax:510.642.2718 (Office: 545Q Cory)
>> home: (F-Tu) 707.665.0131 cell: 707.332.0670
>

-- 
Christopher Brooks, PMP                       University of California
CHESS Executive Director                      US Mail: 337 Cory Hall
Programmer/Analyst CHESS/Ptolemy/Trust        Berkeley, CA 94720-1774
ph: 510.643.9841 fax:510.642.2718	      (Office: 545Q Cory)
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