[kepler-users] rename actor in kar file

Mon Aug 16 16:22:15 PDT 2010

  Hi Chris,

     You are right. If you copy one actor called 'A1' from one canvas to 
a new empty canvas, its name is also changed to 'A'. So it should not be 
a bug.

     I can reproduce the bug with '/' in an actor's name. I fired a bug 
at http://bugzilla.ecoinformatics.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5150.

   About 'Multi-port' issue, since the behavior you got is the same with mine and the multi port is not really lost, I don't think it's a bug. The difference between using 'File-->Open Archive' and dragging from GUI is that: the former way will open what is inside of the workflow; the latter way will display a composite actor which contains the workflow. You can find more information at http://bugzilla.ecoinformatics.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5151

Best wishes

Sincerely yours

Jianwu Wang
jianwu at sdsc.edu
http://users.sdsc.edu/~jianwu/

Assistant Project Scientist
Scientific Workflow Automation Technologies (SWAT) Laboratory
San Diego Supercomputer Center
University of California, San Diego
San Diego, CA, U.S.A.

On 8/16/2010 2:55 PM, Chris Weed wrote:
> Actually the behavior with the number at the end makes sense, since
> kepler seems to be using the number to create uniquely named instances
> of the actor on the canvas,
> but it is somewhat unexpected.
> Chris
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Jianwu Wang<jianwu at sdsc.edu>  wrote:
>>   Hi Chris,
>>
>>     The difference I found between open from a kar file (File-->Open Archive)
>> and open from MyWorflows folder in Kepler GUI is that: the former way will
>> show the composite actor (say A) with correct input port but the latter way
>> will show a composite actor (say B) without input port. I need to open this
>> composite actor B to find the composite actor A with correct input port.
>>
>>     Also the name of B is weird. If the kar file is saved as 'Unamed1', the
>> composite actor showed under 'Unamed1,kar' is shown as 'Unamed1'. But you
>> drag and drop it to an empty canvas, its name becomes 'Unamed'. If the kar
>> is saved as 'Unamed', everything looks normal. It looks the number at the
>> end of the actor will be removed when dragging and dropping it.
>>
>>     My tests on Windows and Mac are the same. Do you get the same behavior?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Sincerely yours
>>
>> Jianwu Wang
>> jianwu at sdsc.edu
>> http://users.sdsc.edu/~jianwu/
>>
>> Assistant Project Scientist
>> Scientific Workflow Automation Technologies (SWAT) Laboratory
>> San Diego Supercomputer Center
>> University of California, San Diego
>> San Diego, CA, U.S.A.
>>
>>
>> On 8/16/2010 12:39 PM, Chris Weed wrote:
>>> Hi Jianwu,
>>> 1. yes, I meant nondeterministic merge
>>> 2. I just did the same test you did, and it works when opened from a
>>> kar file, but not when I saved the kar file in the MyWorkflows
>>> directory. You can see the kar file in the MyWorkflows folder in the
>>> Kepler Gui and drag it into the Kepler desktop. When you do this the
>>> input port is not a multi-port, anymore.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Jianwu Wang<jianwu at sdsc.edu>    wrote:
>>>>   Hi Chris,
>>>>
>>>>     I can not reproduce this error. Would you please help me on the
>>>> following
>>>> questions? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>     1, Do you mean 'Nondeterministic Merge' actor? I didn't find
>>>> 'Deterministic Merge' in Kepler 2.0.
>>>>     2, Where is the input port you can not save its attribute? The
>>>> composite
>>>> actor encapsulating the 'Nondeterministic Merge' actor?
>>>>
>>>>     I put a 'Nondeterministic Merge' actor into a composite actor, added a
>>>> input port to the composite actor and configured it to be Multi-port,
>>>> save
>>>> the composite actor as a kar. When I opened the kar file, the input port
>>>> was
>>>> still Multi-port.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely yours
>>>>
>>>> Jianwu Wang
>>>> jianwu at sdsc.edu
>>>> http://users.sdsc.edu/~jianwu/
>>>>
>>>> Assistant Project Scientist
>>>> Scientific Workflow Automation Technologies (SWAT) Laboratory
>>>> San Diego Supercomputer Center
>>>> University of California, San Diego
>>>> San Diego, CA, U.S.A.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/3/2010 1:31 PM, Chris Weed wrote:
>>>>> FYI, I just tried your suggestion about encapsulating the
>>>>> "Deterministic Merge" actor in a composite actor,
>>>>> but it wouldn't save the attribute for the input port to be a
>>>>> multi-port. It would revert back to a single input port.
>>>>> Seems to be a bug.
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Jianwu Wang<jianwu at sdsc.edu>      wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      I find the same behavior here. I'm not sure what's the reason of
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> Maybe others can point it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      An alternative workaround way is to put your actor into a composite
>>>>>> actor. Then rename the composite actor and save it in MyWorkflows
>>>>>> directory.
>>>>>> You should be able to search the actor with its new name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      About comma in kar files, I think it is a convention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely yours
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jianwu Wang
>>>>>> jianwu at sdsc.edu
>>>>>> http://users.sdsc.edu/~jianwu/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assistant Project Scientist
>>>>>> Scientific Workflow Automation Technologies (SWAT) Laboratory
>>>>>> San Diego Supercomputer Center
>>>>>> University of California, San Diego
>>>>>> San Diego, CA, U.S.A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/20/2010 12:31 PM, chrisweed at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I am trying to save an actor with a different name, but it doesn't seem
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get saved correctly in the kar file.
>>>>>> I drag "Nondeterministic Merge" into my workflow, rename it PN Merge,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> save it in a kar file "PN Merge.kar".
>>>>>> Then when I go to the MyWorkflows directory, I see "PN Merge,kar" with
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> actor named "Nondeterministic Merge" and not "PN Merge".
>>>>>> By the way, I also find it strange that it uses a comma in the kar file
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> instead of a period.
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
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