[kepler-dev] [seek-exec] semantics
Deana Pennington
dpennington at lternet.edu
Thu Jan 19 11:29:35 PST 2006
tee hee...I like it :-)
Matthew Brooke wrote:
>
> >> What would Steve Jobs call it?
>
> iGrid
>
>
>
>
> Deana Pennington wrote:
>
>> If I could think like Steve Jobs I wouldn't be on this project :-)
>>
>> Beach, James H wrote:
>>
>>> What would Steve Jobs call it?
>>>
>>> _____________________________
>>> James H. Beach
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>>> University of Kansas
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>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
>>> [mailto:seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Deana
>>> Pennington
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:16 PM
>>> To: kepler list
>>> Cc: seek-exec
>>> Subject: Re: [seek-exec] [kepler-dev] semantics
>>>
>>> Gee, could you think of something a little more difficult to say???
>>> Think "intuitive acronym".
>>>
>>> Mladen Vouk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Distributed authentication-capable distributed computing resources?
>>>> mav
>>>>
>>>> Deana Pennington wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Vision:
>>>>> -distributed resources
>>>>> -distributed scientists
>>>>>
>>>>> obviously, Kepler could be used for applications outside of
>>>>> science, but since we're all focused on SCIENTIFIC workflows is
>>>>> seems reasonable to me to focus on scientific resources. It's not
>>>>> limited to eco/environmental kinds of applications, as clearly
>>>>> demonstrated by
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> a domain specific actor library that includes genetics and chemistry.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need a word to put in the following sentence:
>>>>> "And because Kepler is based on state of the art grid technologies
>>>>> (see Appendices, Section 5.2), data and analytical processes from
>>>>> other scientists can be exposed and utilized within Kepler. This
>>>>> is done via the XXXGrid, which is basically a set of
>>>>> geographically distributed data repositories, computing resources,
>>>>> and (eventually)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> workflow libraries."
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I can substitute "distributed computing technologies" for grid in
>>>>> the first line, but Kepler will be accessing a specific set of
>>>>> distributed
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> resources (those that the authentication system can handle) and I
>>>>> need
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> a term for that set of resources.
>>>>>
>>>>> My [incomplete] ontology of the distributed resources, where some
>>>>> other term can be substituted for grid if we can find a better
>>>>> term, and there already exist many other specific grids that could be
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> inserted into this:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> ScienceGrid
>>>>> BiosphereGrid
>>>>> EcoGrid
>>>>> GeoGrid
>>>>> OceanGrid
>>>>> HydroGrid
>>>>> AtmGrid
>>>>> others
>>>>> BiologicGrid
>>>>> BiochemGrid
>>>>> GenGrid
>>>>> MolecularBioGrid
>>>>> XXXScience
>>>>> PhysicsGrid
>>>>>
>>>>> Distributed resources can be allocated at different scales in the
>>>>> hierarchy. EcoGrid would only apply to those resources that are
>>>>> domain specific to ecology. BiosphereGrid would include the
>>>>> resources
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> across disciplines within that set (e.g. all of the environmental
>>>>> observatory data taken together). ScienceGrid would include all
>>>>> the generic resources, like some data mining algorithm that could
>>>>> be used by any of the domains. What I want is a term for
>>>>> ScienceGrid at the top of the hierarchy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully this helps define the vision, or at least will generate
>>>>> additional discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deana
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mladen Vouk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good point. What is the vision?
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Mladen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shawn Bowers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that a problem here is that there isn't really a shared
>>>>>>> vision for what this thing you're trying to name will actually
>>>>>>> be when it grows up ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -shawn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deana Pennington wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm working on the Getting Started with Kepler document that
>>>>>>>> Sam and Laura started. I'm trying to make it more generic,
>>>>>>>> less specific to ecology since other sciences are now heavily
>>>>>>>> represented as well. I think it's time to settle on a generic
>>>>>>>> term
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> for the Grid being accessed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >from within Kepler, subsets of which can always use more
>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> terms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (e.g. EcoGrid). My suggestion would be to go with something
>>>>>>>> simple
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> like Science Grid, or SciGrid. Thoughts? Are there other
>>>>>>>> terms that we need to resolve before the documentation effort
>>>>>>>> gets going
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> in full force?
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> Deana
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> -dev
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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UNM Biology Department
MSC03 2020
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