[kepler-dev] Splash screen and corresponding changes

Christopher Brooks cxh at eecs.berkeley.edu
Mon Feb 13 12:24:42 PST 2006


I was thinking that perhaps your dispose() call is running
in a thread other than the Swing event thread.

I'm not much of a ui guy, but I've had a world of hurt about running
things outside the Swing Event Thread.

Check out this article:
http://java.sun.com/products/jfc/tsc/articles/threads/threads1.html
It is old, but it might still apply.

I found it via
http://java.sun.com/products/jfc/tsc/articles/index.html
Search for "Thread".  There is also some stuff about Timers and Swing.

In the perfect world, I'd like to see the splash screen changes in
VergilApplication or MoMLApplication so that we can use the splash
screen there.  We could use the "Look for an image file adjacent to
the configuration file" hack to avoid needing to read the
configuration first.  Since PtExecuteApplication probably does not
want a splash screen, then probably VergilApplication is the right
place.

However, I certainly understand why having a KeplerMain is a win
for Kepler and am a little surprised that Kepler still uses 
VergilApplication.

Anyway, I think these changes are a basic win.  Having a splash
screen helps and having how we start up with a blank empty Graph
Editor is a win.


_Christopher




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    I wasn't completely clear, but KeplerApplication is not a class as much 
    as a main() container.  KeplerApplication has no functionality unto 
    itself.  It possesses a single main() method which kicks off the Splash, 
    then forwards all the arguments on to VergilApplication.
    
    Off hand, I don't know if subclassing MoMLApplication (or any of the 
    others) is really necessary.  For the added functionality I eluded to 
    down below, I was only thinking of manipulating the args and passing on 
    to the main() in the proper MoMLApplication implementation.
    
    One big benefit I have found of having KeplerApplication control the 
    splash display is the splash is not displayed when running ptexecute.  
    So the mechanism we were using to execute in batch mode does not 
    necessarily clutter the display with a bunch of windows.  If I could 
    magically get the splash to work in KeplerInitializer, then it would be 
    displayed in both PtExecuteApplication and VergilApplication (and any 
    other MoMLApplication derived startup).
    
    Kevin
    
    Christopher Brooks wrote:
    > Hi Kevin,
    >
    > VergilApplication probably invokes invokeLater to avoid problems
    > with running Swing code in the main thread.  We've had this problem
    > in the past and putting Swing code in invokeLater() has helped.
    >
    > For example, if we have a model that invokes VergilApplication over
    > and over for separate models then we need to be sure that we invoke
    > the Swing code in the right thread.
    >
    > So, I suspect that if the splash is not operating properly
    > when within the invokeLater block, then there are other problems.
    >
    > We could put the splash code inside VergilApplication,  though I
    > have two concerns:
    > 1) How do we specify which splash screen (if any) to use?
    > If we specify it in the configuration, then there could be
    > a delay while we initialize all the classes.
    >
    > To solve this, we could just look for a specific file next to the
    > configuration and if it is present show it.
    >
    > 2) We need a way to not display the splash screen.  For example,
    > if we are running lots of demos by starting Vergil from a model,
    > like we do in the Chess kiosk by running the demo in ptII/demo,
    > then we probably don't want the splash screen each time.
    >
    > So, we should probably have a -nosplash argument.  -q
    > is taken by $PTII/bin/ptinvoke to not display the command
    > line args, so we can't use -q unless we decide to add
    > it to the base classes (MoMLApplication?)
    >
    >
    > Subclassing VergilApplication for Kepler has its appeal, since
    > it means you can run without the -kepler option.  The one
    > disadvantage is that it is yet another class to maintain.
    > Also, it means that VergilApplication does not have the
    > ability to have a splash screen or other Kepler specific
    > changes.  I'd like to see VergilApplication updated to
    > meet Kepler's needs, since presumably other projects
    > (HyVisual, VisualSense, Viptos) could use extensions like
    > splash screens.
    >
    > I think that instead of using PtExcecuteApplication, you
    > might want to be using MoMLSimpleApplication more.  The reason
    > is that MoMLSimpleApplication does not invoke any Swing classes
    > so it does not require an X11 display.  In grid computing,
    > I suspect that not requiring X11 could be a big win.
    > PtExecuteApplication requires a gui because it extends
    > MoMLApplication with invokes
    >             UIManager.setLookAndFeel(UIManager.getSystemLookAndFeelClassN
   ame());
    > in the constructor.
    >
    > I'm not sure if you can successfully have KeplerApplication
    > have a switch between VergilApplication and MoMLSimpleApplication.
    > It might work, or it might invoke Swing. They way to check
    > is to run with $DISPLAY not set.  
    >
    > Anyway, I'm not opposed to having a KeplerApplication class,
    > I've been toying with the idea of having one, but have
    > had some hesitation because of the above.  I think
    > having a separate KeplerApplication class could be important
    > for branding purposes, but the sponsors (people who
    > control $$) would probably never realize or understand
    > the difference between having KeplerApplication and
    > not having it.
    >
    >
    > BTW - How we handle this in Ptolemy is that in $PTII/bin
    > we create a link to the ptinvoke script and the use a switch
    > statement that checks $0.  So, $PTII/bin/viptos is a symbolic
    > link to $PTII/bin/ptinvoke.  ptinvoke checks $0 and invokes
    > the appropriate arguments.  This requires use of shell,
    > so it only works for Cygwin and Linux users.  Eclipse
    > users have to invoke the VergilApplication with the right
    > args.  
    >
    >
    > _Christopher
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    >     Hi all.
    >     
    >     The only way for me to get the splash screen to work correctly was to
    
    >     build our own main loop which builds the splash screen prior to runni
   ng 
    >     VergilApplication.main.  I think the reason for this is 
    >     VergilApplication runs everything using Swing.invokeLater which seems
    to 
    >     do something weird with the thread priorities and ends up making the 
    >     splash behave very badly.  So I created the 
    >     org.kepler.gui.KeplerApplication so do just that.
    >     
    >     I'm writing this note to inform people that if they are running under
    
    >     eclipse and want to see the splash screen (It doesn't really do anyth
   ing 
    >     so you're not missing out), you will need to change your main from 
    >     VergilApplication to KeplerApplication.  I have made the correspondin
   g 
    >     changes to build.xml's various targets which used to use VergilApplic
   ation.
    >     
    >     One thing to think about in the future, since we need to have our own
    
    >     main for this purpose, this provides us with a place to do a little m
   ore 
    >     with command line arguments.  For example, we could hard code the 
    >     '-kepler' argument into our main when envoking VergilApplication.  Al
   so 
    >     we can combine the VergilApplication and PtExecuteApplication startup
   s 
    >     and provide another switch to run "head-less" or "batch" mode.  What 
   I 
    >     mean is we could interpret an argument like "-batch" as an indication
    to 
    >     run PtExecuteApplication instead of VergilApplication.
    >     
    >     I was able to test the auto_kepler.bat and ptexecute.bat files here, 
   but 
    >     for some reason auto_kepler.sh doesn't seem to work under cygwin.  Ca
   n 
    >     somebody please check that script?
    >     
    >     Kevin
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