[kepler-dev] PtolemyII 5.0beta release
Edward A. Lee
eal at eecs.berkeley.edu
Tue May 24 11:23:45 PDT 2005
It seems that search and browse is to have an index file and a way
to update it... The index file should be updated lazily, and definitely
not on startup...
Edward
At 05:07 PM 5/23/2005 -0700, Shawn Bowers wrote:
>Christopher Brooks wrote:
> > Also, I think because of the super cool Kepler search mechanism
> > all the actors get instantiated at start up time. This is why the
> > python actor(s) caused such a problem at start up. I suspect that
> > if the JAI actors are added to the Kepler configuration but JAI
> > is not present at runtime, then there will be problems at startup.
> >
> > The way default Non-Keplerized Ptolemy II works is that the
> > configuration is not expanded until it is actually browsed. This
> > allows us to have optional packages in the configuration at the
> > expense of not having a search mechanism.
>
>I think that we really need to support something like this behavior.
>One, we don't really want to "materialize" the actors at start up -- but
>we did that because it was easier to implement on our first experiments.
>And two, we want the ability to support *gracefull* mechanisms to
>include "proxies" for actors that aren't available ...
>
>I think in some cases, these "proxies" might even contain some
>information that can tell someone how to go and get the actors (i.e.,
>contact XYZ for the actor), or that the actor hasn't been "dowloaded"
>yet (from a kepler repository) and prompt the user to determine if they
>want to actually download it, or even prompt one to install any needed
>dependencies (libraries), etc.
>
>But, we need a way to search and browse, without having to always "load"
>the actors.
>
>
>shawn
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> >
> > I could be wrong about some of the above because I have no tried
> > this yet.
> >
> > _Christopher
> >
> >
> > --------
> >
> > Bertram Ludaescher wrote:
> > > Ok, I guess what Shawn is saying... (I have the benefit of sitting
> > > next to him .. so I can pick his brains ;-) is this:
> > >
> > > The actors haven't been actually deleted in the Kepler
> > > repository.. they are just not shown in the browser menu.
> > >
> > > BTW -- Why are they not shown????
> >
> > Because you haven't annotated them yet ;-)
> >
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > Bertram
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Shawn Bowers writes:
> > > >
> > > > Carlos,
> > > >
> > > > We ultimately want to set up a uber-repository for all of the
> kepler a
> > nd
> > > > ptolemy actors and workflows ...
> > > >
> > > > But currently, we only include a subset of those by default in
> the
> > > > "library".
> > > >
> > > > However, you can, just like in Ptolemy, open any moml file in
> kepler -
> > -
> > > > so if you know the path to those files in ptolemy, you can
> also open
> > > > those in kepler. In fact, you can also add them directly to the
> > > > hierarchy as well (a little more work, but possible).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > shawn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Carlos A. Rueda wrote:
> > > > > Hi Dan, cvs admin, and all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to start using some Ptolemy actors that are
> based on
> > > > > the Java Advanced Imaging system (JAI), but they are not
> included
> > > > > in the released kepler 1.0.0alpha6. Perhaps the current CVS
> version
> > > > > of Kepler already includes them but I apologize I have
> forgotten my
> > > > > cvs password (username: rueda)
> > > > >
> > > > > So my questions are:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1- Is the current CVS updated with the new actors in
> PtolemyII 5.0be
> > ta,
> > > > > particularly those related with JAI?
> > > > > If not, i) is there a time frame for that?, or ii) how
> can I ins
> > truct
> > > > > kepler to load them?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2- Would the cvs admin please contact me about my password?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > carlos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan Higgins wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>Hi All,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The Ptolemy project has released version 5.0beta of
> PtolemyII at
> > > > >>
> > > > >>http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/ptolemyII/index.htm
> > > > >>
> > > > >>This link is to the source code version which can by used to
> build
> > > > >>Kepler. You might want to use it instead of trying to get
> the CVS
> > > > >>version of Ptolemy. It seems to work fine with the current
> Kepler CV
> > S
> > > > >>code; it won't reflect the latest changes in Ptolemy code
> but it is
> > > > >>probably more stable and doesn't have a lot of experimental
> stuff th
> > at
> > > > >>the Ptolemy CVS head does. You can also see the latest
> changes made
> > in
> > > > >>Ptolemy
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Dan
> > > > >>
> > > > >
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