[kepler-dev] PtolemyII 5.0beta release

[Dan Higgins]

Betram,

    The 5.0beta referes to the recent 5.0 PTOLEMY release which is a 
'beta'. KEPLER is still in 'alpha' release.

Dan

Bertram Ludaescher wrote:

>Thanks Dan for the detailed clarification!
>
>Some comments below..
>
>Bertram
>
>Dan Higgins writes:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> >     Actually, things are a little more complicated than just finding 
> > workflows. Some Ptolemy actors are in the compiled Kepler jars but not 
> > in the Kepler library. As pointed out by Christopher, the Python actor 
> > is in this category because it greatly delayed the first time startup of 
> > Kepler (because all actors in the library are loaded at startup).  
> > Workflows using these actors should run in Kepler.  But some Ptolemy 
> > actors are not included in the kepler.jar file, depending on how you 
> > compile the Ptolemy source. If you use the 'ant ptolemy' command (in 
> > Kepler), the ant build file 'build-ptolemy' is used and if you look at 
> > its contents, it explicitly excludes certain Ptolemy source directories 
> > where we had compilation problems. This includes the jai directory were 
> > the Java Advanced Imaging source is included. You can look at the 
> > exclusion list to see what actors have been skipped. In general, 
> > anything that might cause problems for some users was removed (and not 
> > everyone had the JAI support code (which is platform specific) 
>
>yikes.. what ever happened to the much advertised platform
>independence of Java ;-)
>
> > installed). So there are some Ptolemy workflows that will not run in the 
> > alpha6 release of Kepler.
> > 
> >     Until now, (as far as I know) no Kepler user had asked for us to 
> > include JAI in the Kepler distribution, That can change, but it does 
> > cause installation difficulties.
>
>I guess we just have the first Kepler user asking for it.. 
>
>BTW, why is the subject line "beta"? I guess it must be around the
>corner :-)
>
>cheers
>
>
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > Shawn Bowers wrote:
> > 
> > >Carlos,
> > >
> > >We ultimately want to set up a uber-repository for all of the kepler and 
> > >ptolemy actors and workflows ...
> > >
> > >But currently, we only include a subset of those by default in the 
> > >"library".
> > >
> > >However, you can, just like in Ptolemy, open any moml file in kepler -- 
> > >so if you know the path to those files in ptolemy, you can also open 
> > >those in kepler.  In fact, you can also add them directly to the 
> > >hierarchy as well (a little more work, but possible).
> > >
> > >
> > >shawn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Carlos A. Rueda wrote:
> > >  
> > >
> > >>Hi Dan, cvs admin, and all,
> > >>
> > >>I would like to start using some Ptolemy actors that are based on
> > >>the Java Advanced Imaging system (JAI), but they are not included
> > >>in the released kepler 1.0.0alpha6. Perhaps the current CVS version
> > >>of Kepler already includes them but I apologize I have forgotten my
> > >>cvs password (username: rueda)
> > >>
> > >>So my questions are:
> > >>
> > >>1- Is the current CVS updated with the new actors in PtolemyII 5.0beta,
> > >>    particularly those related with JAI?
> > >>    If not, i) is there a time frame for that?, or ii) how can I instruct
> > >>    kepler to load them?
> > >>
> > >>2- Would the cvs admin please contact me about my password?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks.
> > >>
> > >>carlos
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Dan Higgins wrote:
> > >>
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>Hi All,
> > >>>
> > >>>   The Ptolemy project has released version 5.0beta of PtolemyII at
> > >>>
> > >>>http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/ptolemyII/index.htm
> > >>>
> > >>>This link is to the source code version which can by used to build 
> > >>>Kepler. You might want to use it instead of trying to get the CVS 
> > >>>version of Ptolemy. It seems to work fine with the current Kepler CVS 
> > >>>code; it won't reflect the latest changes in Ptolemy code but it is 
> > >>>probably more stable and doesn't have a lot of experimental stuff that 
> > >>>the Ptolemy CVS head does. You can also see the latest changes made in 
> > >>>Ptolemy
> > >>>
> > >>>Dan
> > >>>
> > >>>      
> > >>>
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