[kepler-dev] Re: [seek-dev] testing Ecogrid services in Kepler!?

[Deana Pennington]

How about SciGrid?

Bertram Ludaescher wrote:

>Matt:
>
>Thanks for the prompt reply. This sounds very cool.
>
>A question in the general Kepler (not SEEK only) context is this: Will
>there be alternative ways to query data sources that are not Ecogrid
>sources? Of course the purpose of the Ecogrid registry was (I remember
>well) to precisely be the "mother of grids".
>
>Maybe we can ultimately rename Ecogrid to Datagrid or KeplerDataGrid
>something to not scare our non-eco Kepler users (hey, I'm doing this
>chemistry, geologie, astrophysics, genomics stuff -- why would I put
>it on the Ecogrid??? ;-)
>
>Also could one envision (for Kepler) to have different "data tabs" or
>one data tab that can be connected to different data grids? 
>For example a native Metacat data tab, a native SRB data tab etc? 
>
>The disadvantage (that the Ecogrid overcomes) is that different APIs
>would have to be implemented. But actually once in Kepler the
>difference seems to disappear.
>The advantage would be that additional functions might be available.
>
>Anyways, just an observation...
>
>Bertram
>
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>
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>>>>>>"MJ" == Matt Jones <jones at nceas.ucsb.edu> writes:
>>>>>>            
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>MJ> 
>MJ> Hi Bertram,
>MJ> They already are being put into Kepler, but as part of the UI rather 
>MJ> than as actors.  Adding them as actors too wouldn't be a problem, but it 
>MJ> hasn't been our emphasis yet.
>MJ> 
>MJ> By selecting the 'Data' tab, typing a phrase, and hitting 'Go' you run 
>MJ> an ecogrid "query".  Dragging a resulting data object to the canvas 
>MJ> results in running an EcoGrid "get".  We have not yet exposed the 
>MJ> "authenticate" or "put" routines, but soon we will.  Bing and Jing are 
>MJ> working on getting the registry exposed in Kepler so that you can choose 
>MJ> which EcoGrid nodes are searched and accessible, but for now the nodes 
>MJ> are in a configuration file.  Eventually I'd like this interface to 
>MJ> include all of the appropriate data access systems (e.g., JDBC, etc.), 
>MJ> but for now its just EcoGrid.
>MJ> 
>MJ> Bertram Ludaescher wrote:
>  
>
>>>For example, sth like this:
>>>
>>>[authenticate]-->[query]-->[get]->[some_local_update]->[put]
>>>
>>>Is that a meaningful exercise? It seems in this way we could not only
>>>test and debug Ecogrid functions but also communicate to the outside
>>>world some functionality...
>>>      
>>>
>MJ> 
>MJ> Yep, I think that would be very meaningful.  We're close.  Of course, 
>MJ> some EcoGrid systems support all of those calls (Metacat, SRB) while 
>MJ> others only support a subset (DiGIR).  So the system needs to fail 
>MJ> gracefully for those that don't.
>MJ> 
>MJ> Matt
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