[tcs-lc] TCS/LC Name Domain

[Paul Kirk]

please define an identification ...

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From: tcs-lc-bounces at ecoinformatics.org on behalf of Robert K. Peet
Sent: Mon 18/04/2005 12:13
To: Richard Pyle
Cc: tcs-lc at ecoinformatics.org
Subject: Re: [tcs-lc] TCS/LC Name Domain




I believe we are once again confusing concept with identification.
Whenever I see "cf." or "aff." I think identification rather than new
concept.

Bob Peet


On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Richard Pyle wrote:

>
> That's pretty much exactly how I've been dealing with them, but I see a
> problem when we think in terms of concepts. Using my previous example in
> Jones:
>
> Aus bus Smith
> Aus cf. bus Smith
>
> We actually have three concepts SEC. Jones:
>
> - Aus bus Smith SEC. Jones
> - Aus cf. bus Smith SEC. Jones
> - Aus SEC. Jones
>
> (I neglected to include that third one in my previous email.)
>
> So, my practice has been similar to yours in that the "cf. bus" would
> default back to simply "Aus" (with a comment indicating that it was more
> specifically identified as "cf. bus").  But we can't really do that in this
> case, because we have a "real" Aus SEC. Jones TaxonConcept instance, that is
> not congruent to the concept implied by Jones' use of "Aus cf. bus Smith".
>
> I believe there is value in capturing the concept intended by Jones when he
> referred to "cf. bus"; so like you, I think they should be captured as a
> distinct TaxonConcept instance (separate from "Aus bus SEC. Jones" and from
> "Aus SEC. Jones").  I'm just not sure whether they should be represented in
> LC as distinct from the "Aus" and "Aus bus Smith" name objects -- and if so,
> how they would be represented.
>
> The simplest approach would be to capture "Aus cf. bus Smith" in the
> <NameSimple>, but then how would you represent <NameDetailed>?
>
> Rich
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tcs-lc-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
> [mailto:tcs-lc-bounces at ecoinformatics.org]On Behalf Of Paul Kirk
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 8:43 PM
> To: tcs-lc at ecoinformatics.org
> Subject: Re: [tcs-lc] TCS/LC Name Domain
>
>
> They should be in TCS. I have hundreds of these in the British Fungi
> database and I've resisted the temptation to add them to Index Fungorum;
> they are accounted for in the checklist of British Fungi but for convenience
> they are treated as taxonomic synonyms of the generic name, i.e. equivalent
> to Aus sp. = 'it's Aus but I'm not sure which species'.  The name as used in
> the original source is retained, of course, but subject to the usual
> documented editorial conventions. For example, CF, cf, cf., CF., cfr, CFR,
> aff., etc are all edited to cf. for consistency in displaying (and searching
> for)these data.
>
> Paul
>

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