[seek-dev] suggested Ecogrid tasks
jones at nceas.ucsb.edu
Thu Apr 7 09:16:58 PDT 2005
Well, we have already started this process of building collections in
the community, and are well aware of the problems that could and have
cropped up. We have data registry and repository initiatives going with
all of the LTER sites, the OBFS network, the NRS network, groups like
PISCO, individual labs, Kruger Nat Park in South Africa, and others.
All of these are collection building activities. We certainly need more
funding for it, but I'm not sure what SEEK's role should be in advancing
this. Right now I would be happy if SEEK could provide the tools and
guidance to do, for example, semantic annotation of data sets, and test
these tools on our case studies alone. Once we develop the semantics
tools, we can make these available to our other partners who are trying
to build collections.
Arcot Rajasekar wrote:
> I agree. But we need to take steps to find out what problems can
> occur when we start building the SEEK holdings. I have seen problems crop
> up in bizzare fashion when we try to do that: political, technical,
> usability, etc. It will be a good idea to make a start at this. Once we
> have some collections that we can open to SEEK community, that is the time
> when we can go and ask for more money to enlarge the collection.
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Deana D. Pennington wrote:
>>Re: your 3rd item, building the eco digital library, this is indeed a huge job,
>>especially if all of the data have to have EML. I think we should try to get
>>some funding (perhaps BDI?) to hire a few people to work just on this. I could
>>see, for instance, a BDI proposal to find data and tools, get them described for
>>use on the system, semantically tag them, and get them on the system. The
>>research objective would be developing the KR needed to do the semantic tagging.
>> Mark and I noted the need for a bigger KR effort at the meeting in Davis in March.
>>Quoting Bing Zhu <bzhu at sdsc.edu>:
>>>After talked with Raja, we suggested the following tasks for
>>>1. Ecogrid web page development for
>>> - upload Eco-data into SEEK data repositories (Metacat, SRB,
>>> - search and view SEEK Eco-data
>>> - submit computational jobs in Ecogrid
>>>1. Deployment of Condor to Ecogrid for distributed job submission.
>>> This is a feedback from Raja's talk in SEEK workshop in Jan.
>>> Most probably we will use the approach of Minigrid from UK.
>>> We are aware of the similar R&D work by you and Ilkay for a
>>> solution. I didn't see the conflict between these two efforts.
>>>3. Build SEEK digital library -- This is a huge job and will
>>> be very useful for SEEK project and Eco-scientists in general.
>>> Basically we would find any public Eco data and mine those data
>>> Metacat (if XML documents) or SRB (if a file, e.g. image,
>>> data, etc).
>>> And also the data collected in our Ecogrid can provide useful info
>>> other SEEK groups such as Taxonomy and modeling.
>>> Actually there are a lot of Eco data just at SDSC. We need to
>>> talk to those domain scientists and mine their data into SEEK
>>> data repositories. It is conceivable that collecting eco-data can
>>> our big useful task.
>>>San Diego Supercomputer Center
>>>bzhu at sdsc.edu
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>>Dr. Deana D. Pennington
>>Long-term Ecological Research Network Office
>>UNM Biology Department
>>1 University of New Mexico
>>Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
>>505 272-7080 (fax)
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