[seek-dev] RE: [seek-dev]SEEK CVS organization

Vieglais, David A vieglais at ku.edu
Mon Dec 9 12:59:34 PST 2002

Hi Matt,
Thanks for the CVS info.  

The organization looks good, though I have a strong preference for DAV over
CVS for storing things like documents, powerpoint slides, and so forth that
may have one primary editor.  As you say, DAV is nicely integrated into
windows 2000 and xp boxes (connect web folder in Windows Explorer), which
allows open and save to DAV folders from all the office apps plus a few

We can always use CVS for complicated document writing if need be.

I think it was mentioned during the SEEK meeting that EcoInformatics has an
IRC server running, and I was wondering if that might be a useful mechanism
for online discussion when necessary?

  Dave V.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Jones [mailto:jones at nceas.ucsb.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 14:22
> To: seek-dev at ecoinformatics.org
> Subject: [seek-dev]SEEK CVS organization
> Seek'ers,
> The connection information for the SEEK CVS repository is described in a
> web page at http://cvs.ecoinformatics.org/HOWTO-cvs-over-ssh.html.  To
> connect, you'll need an account, which I can create.  To write, you also
> need to be authorized to have write permission for a particular part of
> the tree.
> At the current time I am the only one with write access to the SEEK CVS,
> and the only thing in there is the SEEK website.  This will obviously
> need to change as people begin to work on SEEK.  For now, if you have a
> desire to have a CVS account, just email me and I'll set it up
> immediately.  In the mean time, I can figure out a way to set them all
> up more comprehensively for everyone on the SEEK project.
> We'll also need some sort of hierarchy to keep things organized.  Here's
> a proposal for a directory structure within the CVS module.  It can
> always be expanded/changed later, but some initial thought about it will
> probably help keep it organized.  Alternatives, additions, and comments
> appreciated...
> seek
>   |--- outreach
>   |    |--- presentations
>   |    |--- publications
>   |    |--- website
>   |
>   |--- software
>        |
>        |--- project1
>        |    |---- README
>        |    |---- LICENSE
>        |    |---- bin
>        |    |---- docs
>        |    |---- lib
>        |    |---- src
>        |    |---- test
>        |
>        |--- project2
>        |--- projectn
> We've found it pretty useful to put all of our presentation slides and
> papers in one central location for our other projects.  That allows
> others to utilize the slides and makes it easier to compile annual
> reports.  CVS may not be the best place because CVS doesn't handle
> binary files so well and some of our Co-PIs may be less inclined to set
> up a cvs client, so alternatives are possible (like WebDAV?).  I've
> experimented with it a bit and it seems to be pretty seamless in terms
> of its integration with Windows and MacOS.  So if we did that, then we
> would nix the "outreach" directory above in favor of putting those
> things on the DAV server.  The only downside is that the versioning part
> of DAV seems less mature than the other parts, possibly non-existent
> depending on the software we choose. Thoughts on that?
> The directory structure that we've used on all of our current projects
> for the KNB is shown for project1, but I think we should allow some
> flexibility within the projects for different organizational schemes.
> In terms of write access, I think for now it should be simple -- either
> people have write access or not.  This makes people responsible for not
> messing up things that others are working on, and for communicating
> about who is working in certain areas.  I think very fine-grained access
> control just gets in the way of productivity, so prefer this simpler
> approach.  We need to be talking about this stuff a lot anyways. Thoughts?
> Matt
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