[kepler-dev] How to get email about discussion on https://dev.kepler-project.org/

Matt Jones jones at nceas.ucsb.edu
Tue Oct 28 12:45:06 PDT 2008

Hi Christopher,

About the FAQs... we're working on moving the rest of the kepler web site
over to the new plone site, and at that time there will be FAQs available --
we currently plan one FAQ for Kepler users and one FAQ for Kepler
developers.  I think Shaun addressed your other questions regarding the RSS
icons, which I'd forgotten were in the browser toolbar.  However, your issue
about the RSS feed icon not showing up in the individual forum threads still
applies, so hopefully Shaun can address that as well.


On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Shaun Walbridge
<walbridge at nceas.ucsb.edu>wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> There's a link to the RSS feed just below the messages with the title 'RSS
> feed', along with other actions such as print.  Plone used to have header
> icons for each action available, but it was deemed a bad UI decision as it
> often cluttered the page content.  Also, on the browsers available to me, an
> icon in the right side of the location bar appears with an RSS logo.
> It'd be great to have an introduction to using the site; the available RSS
> feeds, and other such features.  If one of the developers would like to give
> it a stab, or perhaps just create an outline of the topics which should to
> be covered, I can work to flesh out the document on those topics deemed
> important.
> Cheers,
> Shaun
> Christopher Brooks wrote:
>> Hi Matt,
>> Great, I those RSS feeds work for me.
>> I see that pages like
>> https://dev.kepler-project.org/developers/kepler-development-forum/build-and-release-team
>> have the RSS feed.
>> However, the page that has the actual messages does not have a link to
>> the RSS feed.  This is probably a Plone issue.  It is a bug when
>> a user cannot find something :-)
>> Also, the RSS feed titles should mention Kepler since users are likely to
>> have many feeds.
>> One thing I find confusing is that the RSS feed shows me a web page
>> instead of just the post.  The RSS feeds I run just return text, which is
>> fine.  Getting the entire webpage is wrong, since each item has redundant
>> info from the previous item.  Any chance of getting this fixed?
>> Finally, does the website have a place for user edited faqs?  There is
>> almost no documentation on how to use the site.  This info about RSS
>> feeds would be a good first start.  Searching for faq yields some sort
>> of user faq that appears to have few links to it and that I cannot edit.
>> Should this info go on dev.kepler-org or elsewhere.
>> I'm willing to wait until an email gateway is setup
>> Thanks for the pointers.
>> _Christopher
>> Matt Jones wrote:
>>> Hi Christopher,
>>> Actually, there are several RSS feeds.  There's one for each forum, and
>>> one that combines all of the fora, and one for other Recent Changes to any
>>> other page on the site.  You can find the RSS feed link on the bottom of
>>> each forum.  The overall forum RSS feed is here:
>>> https://dev.kepler-project.org/developers/kepler-development-forum/RSS
>>> and the build team forum is here:
>>> https://dev.kepler-project.org/developers/kepler-development-forum/build-and-release-team/RSS
>>> We are working on an email gateway, but have a workaround in the
>>> meantime.  If you want, you can use several of the publicly available RSS
>>> forwarding services to get the emails in your inbox.  For example:
>>> http://www.feedmyinbox.com/
>>> If you subscribe there, you can get feeds for all of the fora in your
>>> email directly.
>>> Matt
>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Christopher Brooks <
>>> cxh at eecs.berkeley.edu <mailto:cxh at eecs.berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>>    Cool! An RSS feed is a start.  The feed is at
>>>    https://dev.kepler-project.org/recent-changes/RSS
>>>    I'd prefer an RSS feed of just the recent messages, but this will
>>> help.
>>>    I made some suggestions on the collaboration tools page.  I had looked
>>>    around for an RSS feed, but did not find it and for some reason did
>>> not
>>>    try search.
>>>    If we have an email feed, then it is likely that Edward would see
>>>    the traffic.  I suggest an email feed of the recent messages is more
>>>    useful
>>>    than an email feed of recent changes.
>>>    _Christopher
>>>    Chad Berkley wrote:
>>>        Hey Christopher,
>>>        Do you use Thunderbird?  If so, version 2.x allows you to add
>>>        RSS feeds directly into the folder view on the left (Thanks
>>>        Jianwu for the tip!).  New messages appear as new "mail"
>>>        messages in the RSS folder.  If not, I've been bugging our tech
>>>        guys for weeks to get the email thing working.  I'll ask about
>>>        it again today.
>>>        chad
>>>    Bertram wrote:
>>>        I second this request.
>>>        I've set up an RSS feed in my google reader for the time being.
>>>        But email feed would be much preferred...
>>>        Christopher Brooks wrote:
>>>            It looks like there are some interesting discussions on
>>>            https://dev.kepler-project.org/,
>>>            especially about the build system in
>>> https://dev.kepler-project.org/developers/keper-development-forum/build-and-release-team
>>>            Is there any way to get a mail interface to this?
>>>            I will not be able to regularly check a website, I just
>>>            don't have
>>>            time,  it is not how I work and since I've not been
>>>            successful in
>>>            checking the site lately, I'm not likely to do so in the
>>> future.
>>>            So, if there is no mail feed, and there are items on which I
>>>            might be
>>>            able to help, please send me a email so that I can take a
>>> look.
>>>            I do something similar for Edward and the
>>> comp.soft-sys.ptolemy
>>>            newsgroup because we knew Edward was never going to get around
>>>            to looking at the newsgroup.
>>>            I'm interested in the build issues, there is much common
>>> ground
>>>            here.
>>>            _Christopher
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> Shaun Walbridge
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Matthew B. Jones
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National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis (NCEAS)
UC Santa Barbara
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