[kepler-dev] [seek-exec] semantics
Deana Pennington
dpennington at lternet.edu
Thu Jan 19 11:47:06 PST 2006
This calls for a wiki page...I'll put one up and let everyone add
terms/comment/vote over the next couple of weeks
Deana
Jing Tao wrote:
>Maybe we need to prepare a candidate list then have a vote :)
>
>Jing
>
>Jing Tao
>National Center for Ecological
>Analysis and Synthesis (NCEAS)
>735 State St. Suite 204
>Santa Barbara, CA 93101
>
>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Laura L. Downey wrote:
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>>Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:37:23 -0700
>>From: Laura L. Downey <ldowney at lternet.edu>
>>To: 'Deana Pennington' <dpennington at lternet.edu>,
>> "'Beach, James H'" <beach at ku.edu>
>>Cc: 'seek-exec' <seek-exec at ecoinformatics.org>,
>> 'kepler list' <kepler-dev at ecoinformatics.org>
>>Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] [seek-exec] semantics
>>
>>Maybe too cutesy but what about SciberNet, SciberGrid, SciberWeb or
>>SciberWorld? Cross between science and cyber....
>>
>>Other possibilities:
>>
>>SciRes (science resources)
>>SciComp (science computer resources)
>>SciDCR (science distributed computer resources)
>>SciDC (Scientific distributed computing)
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>>D-Science (Distributed computing resources for science)
>>
>>Laura L. Downey
>>Senior Usability Engineer
>>LTER Network Office
>>Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
>>1 University of New Mexico
>>Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
>>505.277.3157 office
>>505.610.9657 mobile
>>505.277-2541 fax
>>ldowney at lternet.edu
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
>>[mailto:kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Deana Pennington
>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:24 PM
>>To: Beach, James H
>>Cc: seek-exec; kepler list
>>Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] [seek-exec] semantics
>>
>>If I could think like Steve Jobs I wouldn't be on this project :-)
>>
>>Beach, James H wrote:
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>>>What would Steve Jobs call it?
>>>
>>>_____________________________
>>>James H. Beach
>>>Biodiversity Research Center
>>>University of Kansas
>>>1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>>>Lawrence, KS 66045, USA
>>>T 785 864-4645, F 785 864-5335
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
>>>[mailto:seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Deana
>>>Pennington
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:16 PM
>>>To: kepler list
>>>Cc: seek-exec
>>>Subject: Re: [seek-exec] [kepler-dev] semantics
>>>
>>>Gee, could you think of something a little more difficult to say???
>>>Think "intuitive acronym".
>>>
>>>Mladen Vouk wrote:
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>>>>Distributed authentication-capable distributed computing resources?
>>>>mav
>>>>
>>>>Deana Pennington wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Vision:
>>>>>-distributed resources
>>>>>-distributed scientists
>>>>>
>>>>>obviously, Kepler could be used for applications outside of science,
>>>>>but since we're all focused on SCIENTIFIC workflows is seems
>>>>>reasonable to me to focus on scientific resources. It's not limited
>>>>>to eco/environmental kinds of applications, as clearly demonstrated by
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>a domain specific actor library that includes genetics and chemistry.
>>>>>
>>>>>I need a word to put in the following sentence:
>>>>>"And because Kepler is based on state of the art grid technologies
>>>>>(see Appendices, Section 5.2), data and analytical processes from
>>>>>other scientists can be exposed and utilized within Kepler. This is
>>>>>done via the XXXGrid, which is basically a set of geographically
>>>>>distributed data repositories, computing resources, and (eventually)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>workflow libraries."
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>>>
>>>
>>>>>I can substitute "distributed computing technologies" for grid in the
>>>>>first line, but Kepler will be accessing a specific set of distributed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>resources (those that the authentication system can handle) and I need
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>a term for that set of resources.
>>>>>
>>>>>My [incomplete] ontology of the distributed resources, where some
>>>>>other term can be substituted for grid if we can find a better term,
>>>>>and there already exist many other specific grids that could be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>inserted into this:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>ScienceGrid
>>>>> BiosphereGrid
>>>>> EcoGrid
>>>>> GeoGrid
>>>>> OceanGrid
>>>>> HydroGrid
>>>>> AtmGrid
>>>>> others
>>>>> BiologicGrid
>>>>> BiochemGrid
>>>>> GenGrid
>>>>> MolecularBioGrid
>>>>> XXXScience
>>>>> PhysicsGrid
>>>>>
>>>>>Distributed resources can be allocated at different scales in the
>>>>>hierarchy. EcoGrid would only apply to those resources that are
>>>>>domain specific to ecology. BiosphereGrid would include the resources
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>>>across disciplines within that set (e.g. all of the environmental
>>>>>observatory data taken together). ScienceGrid would include all the
>>>>>generic resources, like some data mining algorithm that could be used
>>>>>by any of the domains. What I want is a term for ScienceGrid at the
>>>>>top of the hierarchy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hopefully this helps define the vision, or at least will generate
>>>>>additional discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>Deana
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mladen Vouk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Good point. What is the vision?
>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>Mladen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shawn Bowers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think that a problem here is that there isn't really a shared
>>>>>>>vision for what this thing you're trying to name will actually be
>>>>>>>when it grows up ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-shawn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deana Pennington wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm working on the Getting Started with Kepler document that Sam
>>>>>>>>and Laura started. I'm trying to make it more generic, less
>>>>>>>>specific to ecology since other sciences are now heavily
>>>>>>>>represented as well. I think it's time to settle on a generic term
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>for the Grid being accessed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>from within Kepler, subsets of which can always use more specific
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>terms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>(e.g. EcoGrid). My suggestion would be to go with something simple
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>like Science Grid, or SciGrid. Thoughts? Are there other terms
>>>>>>>>that we need to resolve before the documentation effort gets going
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>in full force?
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>>>
>>>>>>>>Deana
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>>>
>>>Deana D. Pennington, PhD
>>>Long-term Ecological Research Network Office
>>>
>>>UNM Biology Department
>>>MSC03 2020
>>>1 University of New Mexico
>>>Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
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>>Deana D. Pennington, PhD
>>Long-term Ecological Research Network Office
>>
>>UNM Biology Department
>>MSC03 2020
>>1 University of New Mexico
>>Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
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Long-term Ecological Research Network Office
UNM Biology Department
MSC03 2020
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
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