[kepler-dev] [seek-exec] semantics

[Matthew Brooke]

 >> What would Steve Jobs call it?

iGrid




Deana Pennington wrote:
> If I could think like Steve Jobs I wouldn't be on this project :-)
> 
> Beach, James H wrote:
> 
>> What would Steve Jobs call it?
>>
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>> James H. Beach
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>> University of Kansas
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
>> [mailto:seek-exec-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Deana
>> Pennington
>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:16 PM
>> To: kepler list
>> Cc: seek-exec
>> Subject: Re: [seek-exec] [kepler-dev] semantics
>>
>> Gee, could you think of something a little more difficult to say???  
>> Think "intuitive acronym".
>>
>> Mladen Vouk wrote:
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>>> Distributed authentication-capable distributed computing resources?
>>> mav
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>>> Deana Pennington wrote:
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>>>> Vision:
>>>> -distributed resources
>>>> -distributed scientists
>>>>
>>>> obviously, Kepler could be used for applications outside of science, 
>>>> but since we're all focused on SCIENTIFIC workflows is seems 
>>>> reasonable to me to focus on scientific resources.  It's not limited 
>>>> to eco/environmental kinds of applications, as clearly demonstrated by
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>>>> a domain specific actor library that includes genetics and chemistry.
>>>>
>>>> I need a word to put in the following sentence:
>>>> "And because Kepler is based on state of the art grid technologies 
>>>> (see Appendices, Section 5.2), data and analytical processes from 
>>>> other scientists can be exposed and utilized within Kepler.  This is 
>>>> done via the XXXGrid, which is basically a set of geographically 
>>>> distributed data repositories, computing resources, and (eventually)
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>> workflow libraries."
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>>>> I can substitute "distributed computing technologies" for grid in the 
>>>> first line, but Kepler will be accessing a specific set of distributed
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>>>> resources (those that the authentication system can handle) and I need
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>>>> a term for that set of resources.
>>>>
>>>> My [incomplete] ontology of the distributed resources, where some 
>>>> other term can be substituted for grid if we can find a better term, 
>>>> and there already exist many other specific grids that could be
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>> inserted into this:
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>>>> ScienceGrid
>>>>  BiosphereGrid
>>>>     EcoGrid
>>>>     GeoGrid
>>>>     OceanGrid
>>>>     HydroGrid
>>>>     AtmGrid
>>>>     others
>>>>  BiologicGrid
>>>>     BiochemGrid
>>>>     GenGrid
>>>>     MolecularBioGrid
>>>>  XXXScience
>>>>     PhysicsGrid
>>>>
>>>> Distributed resources can be allocated at different scales in the 
>>>> hierarchy.  EcoGrid would only apply to those resources that are 
>>>> domain specific to ecology.  BiosphereGrid would include the resources
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>>>> across disciplines within that set (e.g. all of the environmental 
>>>> observatory data taken together).  ScienceGrid would include all the 
>>>> generic resources, like some data mining algorithm that could be used 
>>>> by any of the domains.  What I want is a term for ScienceGrid at the 
>>>> top of the hierarchy.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully this helps define the vision, or at least will generate 
>>>> additional discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Deana
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mladen Vouk wrote:
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>>>>> Good point. What is the vision?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Mladen
>>>>>
>>>>> Shawn Bowers wrote:
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>>>>>> I think that a problem here is that there isn't really a shared 
>>>>>> vision for what this thing you're trying to name will actually be 
>>>>>> when it grows up ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -shawn
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deana Pennington wrote:
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>>>>>>> I'm working on the Getting Started with Kepler document that Sam 
>>>>>>> and Laura started.  I'm trying to make it more generic, less 
>>>>>>> specific to ecology since other sciences are now heavily 
>>>>>>> represented as well.  I think it's time to settle on a generic term
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>>>>>>> for the Grid being accessed
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>>>>>> >from within Kepler, subsets of which can always use more specific 
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>>>>>>> terms
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>>>>>>> (e.g. EcoGrid).  My suggestion would be to go with something simple
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>>>>>>> like Science Grid, or SciGrid.  Thoughts?  Are there other terms 
>>>>>>> that we need to resolve before the documentation effort gets going
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>> in full force?
>>  
>>
>>>>>>> Deana
>>>>>>>
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