[kepler-dev] Welcome screen vs Splash screen

Laura L. Downey ldowney at lternet.edu
Thu Feb 16 08:42:46 PST 2006


Thanks Ilkay.  That will be great.

Just to clarify things here -- Now I see where a bit of confusion is because
both the new welcome window and the modified intro.htm welcome window are
both appearing in the latest nightly build.  The second welcome window (the
one using intro.htm) should be done away with.

Also the sequence of windows should be:

Splash screen appears.
Splash screen disappears and main Kepler window appears.
Then new welcome window appears on top of Kepler main window.

Previously I had specified the main window appears first, then splash screen
etc.  But as Kevin and I were just talking this is not possible with the
current code design as the main kepler window takes about 20-30 seconds to
appear and without significantly re-writing things we can't make the main
Kepler window immediately appear.

I will update the appropriate bug in bugzilla also.

Laura L. Downey
Senior Usability Engineer
LTER Network Office
Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM  87131-0001
505.277.3157 office
505.610.9657 mobile
505.277-2541 fax
ldowney at lternet.edu
 

-----Original Message-----
From: kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
[mailto:kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Laura L. Downey
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:55 AM
To: 'Kevin Ruland'
Cc: 'Kepler-Dev'
Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] Welcome screen vs Splash screen

The new splash screen has no links.  The new welcome screen has two links to
documentation.  

As far as I understand intro.htm was being displayed in the right hand pane
upon startup.  The decision was made to NOT display intro.htm upon startup
on the workflow canvas but instead for the workflow canvas to be blank.  And
for the splash screen to display upon startup over a blank workflow canvas,
for the splash screen to disappear on its own after initialization was
complete, and for the new welcome screen to then appear after the splash
screen disappears.

I'm not quite sure about the current links in intro.htm.  My understanding
is that we are going to include 3 very well documented working sample
workflows with Release 3.0.  These will be in the getting started
documentation and we may also reference them somewhere from the help menu
under an item like "samples."  How these 3 sample workflows overlap with the
stuff in the current intro.htm I don't know.

We don't want to include any samples that aren't well documented and working
properly because that gives a very negative impression of Kepler.

Laura L. Downey
Senior Usability Engineer
LTER Network Office
Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM  87131-0001
505.277.3157 office
505.610.9657 mobile
505.277-2541 fax
ldowney at lternet.edu
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Ruland [mailto:kruland at ku.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:27 AM
To: Laura L. Downey
Cc: 'Kepler-Dev'
Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] Welcome screen vs Splash screen


What I'm hearing then is the Welcome screen and the intro.htm screen are 
duplications, right?  If the Welcome screen is going to have links which 
will open workflows, then it cannot be shown until after application 
startup.

Kevin

Laura L. Downey wrote:
> It was decided at the recent kepler-dev meeting that we would have both
the
> splash screen and the welcome screen -- the splash screen is to give users
> an idea of what is going on while Kepler is initializing etc. then it
should
> disappear and be replaced with the welcome screen, which is only dismissed
> upon user action (or does not appear the next time if the user unchecks
the
> "show this dialog upon startup" checkbox) and provides a few simple links
to
> documentation for scientists and documentation for programmers.  Just as a
> reminder, the welcome screen will have other things included in the
future,
> most likely links to specific samples and online tutorials etc.
>
> I think we should stay with this decision for the time being since we have
> so many other things to deal with.
>
> BTW, the welcome screen should not have the min/max controls.  I just
didn't
> know how to remove them in the prototyping software I'm using.  Good catch
> on that.  But the welcome screen is a regular window with the standard "X"
> for closing in the upper right of the window title bar and a "close"
button
> in the bottom right hand corner.
>
> As to the links, I have the same questions.  I'm assuming (dangerous I
know)
> that we will be displaying PDF or HTML documentation for Kepler in a
Kepler
> window with the exception being any link to Ptolemy docs which will be to
> their HTML pages.
>
> Laura L. Downey
> Senior Usability Engineer
> LTER Network Office
> Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
> 1 University of New Mexico
> Albuquerque, NM  87131-0001
> 505.277.3157 office
> 505.610.9657 mobile
> 505.277-2541 fax
> ldowney at lternet.edu
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
> [mailto:kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Ruland
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:01 AM
> To: Kepler-Dev
> Subject: [kepler-dev] Welcome screen vs Splash screen
>
> Hi all,
>
> The welcome screen and splash screen are both in the code now.  Since 
> the Welcome screen simply has http urls (and doesn't do the whole sample 
> workflow selection thing) it would be perfectly reasonable to use that 
> as the splash instead of the current one.  In any case, having both of 
> them is a little noisy during startup.
>
> My vote would be to have the welcome screen completely replace the 
> splash.  I'd get rid of the frame (ie, make undecorated) so the user 
> doesn't have minimize/maximize buttons, make it stay on top of the other 
> application windows, and consider changing the urls it points to.  Are 
> the urls going to be documents distributed with the Kepler application - 
> or will they continue to be remote http urls?
>
> Kevin
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