[kepler-dev] Questions for adding new actors

[Chad Berkley]

hey bertram,

When we create the actor repository and have a centralized place for 
keeping track of LSIDs things will be much easier.  right now we have to 
fudge the numbers a bit to keep developers from using two of the same 
lsid.  Our LSIDs are real lsids, we just don't have the full 
infrastructure to support them yet.

chad

Bertram Ludaescher wrote:
> All:
> What is this business of "changing numbers/LSIDs"? 
> Aren't LSIDs fairly immutable? 
> Isn't there an authority that assigns them? 
> 
> Or do we have sth that looks like an LSID, smells like an LSID, but
> doesn't walk or talk like one (hence isn't one)? 
> 
> What would be the benefit of such a scheme? 
> 
> (sorry, many questions -- I know ;-)
> 
> Bertram
> 
> 
> 
>>>>On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 17:12:32 -0800
>>>>Chad Berkley <berkley at nceas.ucsb.edu> wrote: 
> 
> CB> 
> CB> hmm, 500 is mine and is a temporary test that will be removed  
> CB> shortly.  You should update the README to whatever the last number  
> CB> (<500) is.  I guess just make them both 454.
> CB> 
> CB> thanks,
> CB> chad
> CB> 
> CB> On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Zhijie Guan wrote:
> CB> 
> 
>>>Hi, Chad,
>>>
>>>Ok. I'd like to update that README file. But here is the situation:  
>>>the
>>>actors and kars have over-numbered the number set in the README.
>>>
>>>For kar files, the following scopes are taken:
>>>1-332, 449-453, 500
>>>
>>>For actors, the following scopes are taken:
>>>1-447, 449-453, 500
>>>
>>>Should I manually change those numbers back to make it  
>>>sequentially, or we
>>>just let them be and set the new maximum numbers (500) in README?
>>>
>>>Zhijie
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Chad Berkley wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yeah, we should add that to the README too.  Can you add that?  You
>>>>can figure it out easily by building kepler then looking in
>>>>the .kepler/cache/cacheobjects directory for the largest lsid  
>>>>filename.
>>>>
>>>>chad
>>>>
>>>>On Feb 6, 2006, at 3:47 PM, Zhijie Guan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi, Chad,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks! One more question:
>>>>
>>>>The kar lsid is not recorded in README file. How do I know which is
>>>>the
>>>>largest lsid?  Must this lsid be unique for any kar file? It seems
>>>>the kar
>>>>files is alphabetically indexed according to their names. It's hard
>>>>to add
>>>>a new actor directory following the alphabetical index -- I must
>>>>change
>>>>all the lsid(s) in Manifest files for all the actors alphabetically
>>>>"larger" than the new actor.
>>>>
>>>>~Zhijie
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Chad Berkley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Zhijie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You have to add your actor to src/actors with unique lsids, then  
>>>>>>run
>>>>>>'ant buildkarlib' to create the kar file and add it to the kar
>>>>>>library.  The 'entityId' lsid is kept track of in the README file.
>>>>>>Don't worry about the class lsid as it's not being used right now.
>>>>>>The important ones are the kar lsid (in the manifest) and the
>>>>>>entityId (in the actor metadata file and the manifest).  If you add
>>>>>>another actor, please update the README file and check it in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>chad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Feb 6, 2006, at 2:39 PM, Zhijie Guan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Does anybody know how to add new actors into Kepler now?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I know I should create a directory for the new actor under
>>>>>>>$KEPLER/src/actors. And there should be two files  
>>>>>>>(ActorName.xml and
>>>>>>>MANIFEST.MF) in that directory. My question is if those two files
>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>automatically generated by the system? If yes, how to let the  
>>>>>>>system
>>>>>>>generate them? If no, how to manually write them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I notice there are two index lsid numbers in ActorName.xml: one
>>>>>>>is the
>>>>>>>index number for actor, the other is for the actor class. For
>>>>>>>example, the
>>>>>>>"Add Grids" actor has 446 as its actor index number, and 1209 as
>>>>>>>its class
>>>>>>>index number. Are these index numbers unique in all of the actors
>>>>>>>used in
>>>>>>>Kepler? If so, how can I find the largest index number for actors
>>>>>>>thus I
>>>>>>>can use the next available number for my new actor? Should we  
>>>>>>>write
>>>>>>>those
>>>>>>>largest index numbers on some place (like Readme.txt) so we can
>>>>>>>easily
>>>>>>>access them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Zhijie
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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