[kepler-dev] Simple Search

Matthew Brooke brooke at nceas.ucsb.edu
Thu Nov 3 14:10:38 PST 2005


Thanks Matt - found it in closed bug #1906; looks like it's not a 
show-stopper after all

m


Matt Jones wrote:
> Yep, going through the bugs yesterday someone definitely made that 
> point.  Its in bugzilla somewhere, maybe in a closed bug -- search for 
> reset or cancel in the closed bugs.
> 
> Matt
> 
> Matthew Brooke wrote:
>> Hi Laura -
>>
>> Yep - I agree with you on the necessity for the cancel button, but I 
>> was sure I'd read/heard some discussion that there would be major 
>> issues in implementing it.
>>
>> Can anyone else on the list help out on this? Does it ring any bells? 
>> Or has senility finally caught up with me?
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>> Laura L. Downey wrote:
>>
>>> See below....
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Matthew Brooke [mailto:brooke at nceas.ucsb.edu] Sent: Thursday, 
>>> November 03, 2005 2:31 PM
>>> To: Laura L. Downey
>>> Cc: kepler-dev at ecoinformatics.org
>>> Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] Simple Search
>>>
>>> Hi Laura -
>>>
>>> Thanks for the response - more questions ;-)
>>>
>>> 1) I think i read in a bug or email somewhere that the "cancel" 
>>> button won't be implemented in the near future, because it's 
>>> non-trivial to do so. Did I read that, or am I hallucinating? I can't 
>>> find anything in bugzilla now
>>>
>>> [LLD>] I don't remember that but I know a cancel function is 
>>> essential, in
>>> case the user wants to stop the search for any reason (search is 
>>> taking too
>>> long, user changes his/her mind and wants to search for something 
>>> else etc.)
>>>
>>> [LLD>]During user testing this was a huge problem, especially since 
>>> some of
>>> the ecogrid searches were taking like 5 and 10 minutes and we had no 
>>> way to
>>> stop those searches without rebooting the machine.  And since all the 
>>> users
>>> were trying to hit the ecogrid at the same time this really put a 
>>> dent in
>>> that part of the training and testing when that happened.
>>>
>>> [LLD>] Users need control of the application and should be able to 
>>> cancel
>>> operations if they need or desire to.
>>>
>>> 2) What does the "source" button do in the simple search screen? 
>>> Currently, only the data search tab has a "source" button
>>>
>>> [LLD>] See my previous answer to Shawn. :-)
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> m
>>>
>>>
>>> Laura L. Downey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sample attached.
>>>>
>>>> Laura L. Downey
>>>> Senior Usability Engineer
>>>> LTER Network Office
>>>> Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
>>>> 1 University of New Mexico
>>>> Albuquerque, NM  87131-0001
>>>> 505.277.3157 phone
>>>> 505.277-2541 fax
>>>> ldowney at lternet.edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Shawn Bowers [mailto:sbowers at ucdavis.edu] Sent: Thursday, 
>>>> November 03, 2005 2:05 PM
>>>> To: Laura L. Downey
>>>> Cc: 'Chad Berkley'; 'Matthew Brooke'; kepler-dev at ecoinformatics.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] Simple Search
>>>>
>>>> Laura, can you quickly give a pointer to a screen shot of how the five
>>>> buttons should be placed.
>>>>
>>>> -shawn
>>>>
>>>> Laura L. Downey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I meant to copy my response to Matthew to the list.  He was 
>>>>> using
>>>
>>> an
>>>
>>>>> old design as a reference.  The current design does away with the text
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>>> concept checkboxes and contains actually five buttons:
>>>>>
>>>>> Search
>>>>> Reset
>>>>> Cancel
>>>>> Source
>>>>> Advanced Search
>>>>>
>>>>> So no I don't recommend that we get rid of the Reset button.  This is
>>>>> something that came directly out of some simple user testing in 
>>>>> which the
>>>>> users couldn't reset things back to the original "browse" or 
>>>>> pre-search
>>>>
>>>> view
>>>>
>>>>> that Chad mentions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Laura L. Downey
>>>>> Senior Usability Engineer
>>>>> LTER Network Office
>>>>> Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
>>>>> 1 University of New Mexico
>>>>> Albuquerque, NM  87131-0001
>>>>> 505.277.3157 phone
>>>>> 505.277-2541 fax
>>>>> ldowney at lternet.edu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Chad Berkley [mailto:berkley at nceas.ucsb.edu] Sent: Thursday, 
>>>>> November 03, 2005 1:48 PM
>>>>> To: Matthew Brooke
>>>>> Cc: Laura L. Downey; kepler-dev at ecoinformatics.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] Simple Search
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, the reset button is the only way to reset the search 
>>>>> results to the pre-search view.  If you do away with that button, 
>>>>> you need to figure out some other way to get the tree back into the 
>>>>> normal view.
>>>>>
>>>>> chad
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthew Brooke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Laura -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you please clarify one of the proposed changes to the Simple 
>>>>>> Search box (top left in kepler UI) -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> specifically, some of the powerpoint slides show the search box 
>>>>>> with no reset button (see attached example), whereas bug #2108 
>>>>>> ("changes to simple search") mentions removing the "text" and 
>>>>>> "concept" checkboxes, but does not mention removing the "reset" 
>>>>>> button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So should the reset button stay, or should it go?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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