[kepler-dev] planned kepler-1.0.0alpha5 release

[Shawn Bowers]

Bertram Ludaescher wrote:

>  > On another note, we talked a bit on IRC a few days ago about some of the 
>  > needed infrastructure within kepler to handle these changes.  One 
>  > problem is that the only way to make an annotation, ontology change, or 
>  > any other configuration in Kepler "last" is by checking in the changes 
>  > to cvs.  
> 
> I'm not sure I understand. Why can't there be a start-up sequence in
> which the system looks for user-specific init/config files, after
> loading the version specific ones? For example, XEmacs does something
> like that on start-up: first load the "default configs" (corresponding
> what would be found in the release/cvs) then look for the "user
> configs", e.g., at the the place defined by an environment
> variable (if it is defined), or if such isn't defined, then at a
> "user location" such as ~/.keplerrc 

Yeah ... I don't think conceptually any of this is probably that 
difficult; it's just that someone needs to implement it!

> 
> I'm not sure what Ptolemy II does at start-up, but I wouldn't be
> suprised if they'd let you do sth like that (and if they don't,
> probably Kepler should do sth like that).

It's all just java code, so if we can change the base code, we're golden.

shawn

> 
> The big advantage of course would be that all user preferences,
> configs, workflows, actors etc would "survive" an new Kepler install,
> even if done "in-place".
> 
>  > This somewhat limits customization ... and is a larger issue 
>  > that needs to be addressed.  Matt suggested using their approach in 
>  > Morpho which involves copying files at startup, etc., which may be one 
>  > way to do it.
> 
> I don't think copying is needed (see above)
> 
> Bertram
> 
>  > 
>  > Shawn
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Bertram Ludaescher wrote:
>  > > Hi Matt:
>  > > 
>  > > A related question: I remember that at some point some Ptolemy actors
>  > > were hidden (or otherwise disappeared from the Kepler actor tab). I
>  > > assume they are still part of the Kepler distribution though, right?
>  > > 
>  > > Also: What are the plans for being able to edit actor annotations?
>  > > (currently they seem to be "pseudo-hardwired", i.e., via some OWL-ishe
>  > > files). As simple text-based form (just like the one for configuring
>  > > ports or in fact one that links into that one) might do.
>  > > 
>  > > The ontology itself should be just a config file that can be changed
>  > > via "Preferences" / "Options"..
>  > > 
>  > > Any comments?
>  > > 
>  > > Bertram
>  > > 
>  > > Matt Jones writes:
>  > >  > Hi,
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > On our roadmap that we developed at the last Kepler meeting we said we 
>  > >  > would try for an alpha 5 release by Feb 21 (see 
>  > >  > http://kepler-project.org/Wiki.jsp?page=KeplerReleaseRoadmap&version=1). 
>  > >  >   That hasn't happened but is probably still useful.  I talked with Dan 
>  > >  > today, and we thought it would be good to go ahead with a release to try 
>  > >  > to get some of the bug fixes and improvements that we've completed now 
>  > >  > out there in a more accessible format.  So Dan is planning on pulling 
>  > >  > the CVS HEAD on Friday Feb 25 and creating the alpha5 installers then. 
>  > >  > If you have anything you want included in this release, please check it 
>  > >  > into CVS by Thursday the 24th, and please try not to check in any 
>  > >  > experimental code that is likely to break the trunk (use a branch instead).
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > A revised roadmap is here:
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > http://kepler-project.org/Wiki.jsp?page=KeplerReleaseRoadmap
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > The main differences from the previous roadmap version are that: 1) the 
>  > >  > documentation framework isn't complete so has been moved to alpha6, and 
>  > >  > 2) the R improvements are ongoing and so have been extended to alpha6. I 
>  > >  > also added links to the bug lists for each milestone.  The alpha 6 
>  > >  > release is slated for April 15th, 2005 (just prior to the SEEK and GEON 
>  > >  > meetings and the Ptolemy/Kepler miniconference), and I think we should 
>  > >  > try hard to make that deadline.
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > Cheers,
>  > >  > Matt
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > -- 
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