[kepler-dev] [Ptolemy] "Look Inside" changed to "Open Actor"
Laura L. Downey
ldowney at lternet.edu
Mon Dec 19 08:40:07 PST 2005
Hi Chris,
Sorry to be a bit lagging in replying to this.
For Kepler, I've proposed:
Zoom Reset Ctrl+M
Zoom In Ctrl++
Zoom Out Ctrl+-
Zoom Fit (no shortcut proposed)
Full Screen Ctrl+F
Automate Layout Ctrl+T
So, the ctrl++ and ctrl+- are good for zoom in and zoom out.
As a side note, I've proposed some variations upon the original Ptolemy
menus for Kepler and therefore some variations on the mnemonics and
shortcuts followed in terms of trying to get everything coordinated. For
menus, I was trying to give a more standard set of menu items grouped like
users would expect in terms of using other desktop applications.
And I've added some standard menu items and some convenience functions like
Close, Close All, list of most recently opened workflows, and a Windows menu
to more easily navigate between several workflows open at a time, and also
menu items that pertain to functionality that Kepler is adding e.g., to
support semantic annotation.
For reference:
http://kepler-project.org/Wiki.jsp?page=MenuAndToolBarReDesign
So because of this I had to re-organize the mnemonics and shortcuts and it
was quite a task to walk through every single item (which it sounds like
Edward did in the original Ptolemy also) and make sure I was using the
standards like ctrl+0 for open, and assigning meaningful shortcuts (trying
to use a letter within menu item it is associated with).
Hope this clarifies.
Laura L. Downey
Senior Usability Engineer
LTER Network Office
Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
505.277.3157 phone
505.277-2541 fax
ldowney at lternet.edu
-----Original Message-----
From: cxh at EECS.Berkeley.EDU [mailto:cxh at EECS.Berkeley.EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:28 PM
To: Laura L. Downey
Cc: ptresearch at chess.eecs.berkeley.edu; kepler-dev at ecoinformatics.org
Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] [Ptolemy] "Look Inside" changed to "Open Actor"
Hi Laura,
Double click is probably not going to happen any time soon, there is
a separate bug for it:
http://bugzilla.ecoinformatics.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2109
About Control+ and Control+- for zooming, you wrote:
> I am also proposing ctrl++ and ctrl+- as shortcuts for zoom in
> and zoom out. These are also pretty standard across many
> programs. They do not appea r in my design because the program
> I'm using for prototyping wouldn't allow me t
BTW - Ctrl++ is really Ctrl+Shift+= because the + is Shift+=
ptolemy/vergil/basic/BasicGraphFrame.java has the following bindings:
Zoom In Ctrl+Shift+=
Zoom Reset Ctrl+=
Zoom Fit Ctrl+Shift+-
Zoom Out Ctrl+-
Thus, I think we have what you propose? Let me know if I'm wrong
about this.
_Christopher
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In the short term, I've moved back to Control-L as a shortcut.
I think we can't have multiple key stroke shortcuts, so C-x f
is out.
I'll look in to getting double click to work, but probably not today.
I can see about setting up short cuts for zoom in and zoom out.
I've not yet updated the docs.
So, the bug remains open.
_Christopher
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If you look here:
http://kepler-project.org/Wiki.jsp?page=MenuAndToolBarReDesign
You'll see what I've proposed for Kepler for a revamping of the menu
sy
stem
.
In it, Ctrl-O is used for Open File, and as Edward has noted this is
fa
irly
standard in Windows and some other systems/programs. When I
reviewed t
he
shortcuts, I looked at several programs to see what the common
shortcut
usages were.
I am proposing "O" as a mnemonic for the "Open Actor" item but I did
no
t
provide a shortcut simply because it is not needed since we had
decided
to
go with double clicking an actor as opening it.
I am also proposing ctrl++ and ctrl+- as shortcuts for zoom in and
zoom
out
.
These are also pretty standard across many programs. They do not
appea
r in
my design because the program I'm using for prototyping wouldn't
allow
me t
o
specify those special characters (+ and -) as shortcuts.
BTW, ctrl+A is most often used for Select All in Microsoft I believe
ev
en
though I proposed using it for Save As which I've seen in some
programs
and
because right now we don't have a "Select All" in Kepler. "A" is
usual
ly
the mnemonic for Save As so that was an attempt to match the same
lette
r.
Laura L. Downey
Senior Usability Engineer
LTER Network Office
Department of Biology, MSC03 2020
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
505.277.3157 phone
505.277-2541 fax
ldowney at lternet.edu
-----Original Message-----
From: kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org
[mailto:kepler-dev-bounces at ecoinformatics.org] On Behalf Of Edward
A. L
ee
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:34 AM
To: Christopher Brooks
Cc: ptresearch at chess.eecs.berkeley.edu;
kepler-dev at ecoinformatics.org
Subject: Re: [kepler-dev] [Ptolemy] "Look Inside" changed to "Open
Acto
r"
I think we should stick with Windows conventions as much as
possible...
I actually put a great deal of thought into the shortcuts to try to
get
them to match Microsoft standards as much as possible and to have
match
ing
mnemonics... This was probably one reason for calling this "Look
Inside
".
But I too like "Open Actor" better...
So I suggest rolling back to Control-L...
Edward
At 08:21 PM 12/12/2005 -0800, Christopher Brooks wrote:
>Yah, I figure it that it would be a problem.
>
>Firefox, IE and MS Word all have Control-O as File Open.
>
>I see several options with minus and pluses:
>
>1) Stick with Control-O as the shortcut for "Open Actor"
> - Annoy all users used to lots of Windows Apps
> + Convenient and Mnemonic
>2) Go back to Control-L
> - Not Mnemonic, but makes a good trivia question
> + Does not break users used to lots of Windows Apps
> + Edward and I don't have to learn a new shortcut
>3) Choose another key, such as Control-A
> -/+ Sort of Mnemonic
> - Conflicts with Select All
>
>For now, I'll roll back to Control-L.
>I think this might be why we stuck with Look Inside.
>
>Comments?
>
>_Christopher
>
>--------
>
>
>
> Control-O is already bound to "Open File", so I think this
change
> will break that... Using Control-O for open file is pretty
common
> in Windows programs...
>
> Edward
>
> At 07:00 PM 12/12/2005 -0800, Christopher Brooks wrote:
> >The Kepler group asked that "Look Inside" be changed to "Open
Ac
tor"
.
> >[Personally, I was opting for "Open Sesame" ]
> >
> >http://bugzilla.ecoinformatics.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2110
> >
> >I went ahead and made this change to
> > ptolemy/vergil/actor/ActorController.java
> >I also modified the short cut so that Control-O now opens the
> >actor instead of Control-L. If there is great hue and cry, I
su
ppos
e
> >we could have both Control-O and Control-L but I don't see
how t
o do
> >this.
> >
> >ActorController has a protected variable named
_lookInsideAction
which
> >I did not rename so as to preserve backward compatibility
with
> >subclasses of this class.
> >
> >I updated a few demos as well.
> >
> >These classes:
> > ptolemy/chic/ChicController.java
> > ptolemy/vergil/fsm/TransitionController.java
> > ptolemy/vergil/fsm/StateController.java
> >all still have "Look Inside" because the "Look Inside" action
lo
oks
> >inside a Chic node or a transition or a state, which are all
not
> >actors. Thus "Open Actor" does not make much sense in for
those
> >classes. If someone has a strong opinion, I could change
them a
s
> >well.
> >
> >Once the dust settles, I'll make a pass through the docs and
fix
up
> >references to "Look Inside".
> >
> >_Christopher
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Ptolemy maillist - Ptolemy at chess.eecs.berkeley.edu
> >http://chess.eecs.berkeley.edu/ptolemy/listinfo/ptolemy
>
> ------------
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> 231 Cory Hall, UC Berkeley, Berkeley, CA 94720
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